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Post by ophion1031 on Dec 10, 2018 20:54:34 GMT -8
This case was made famous around the world because of the Netflix series Making a Murderer. At first I thought that maybe Teresa was paid to disappear, perhaps to Canada, while police planted bones from another person on Avery's property. After seeing season 2, that is highly doubtful.
Let's discuss the case and the series in this thread. I think this site may have a "spoiler" button as well (?) that can be used because there are probably a few people out there that have not seen the show yet.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 1, 2019 16:36:08 GMT -8
I'm not sure what this is or about or how to go look about it ?
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Post by ophion1031 on Dec 2, 2019 3:00:47 GMT -8
I'm not sure what this is or about or how to go look about it ? I think the only way to watch it is on Netflix. You can find info on the series all over the net and on the Yotutubes though.
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Post by sandyb1 on Jan 1, 2020 21:15:05 GMT -8
I didn't see it but did some reading ,I think Steven Avery was her killer. He was the person who asked her to come to his salvage yard. To me that is a slam dunk
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Post by ophion1031 on Apr 14, 2020 2:14:56 GMT -8
I didn't see it but did some reading ,I think Steven Avery was her killer. He was the person who asked her to come to his salvage yard. To me that is a slam dunk Normally I would say that you would have to be a complete jackass to do the things that Avery is accused of doing, but I dunno... he comes from a family of very low IQ folks. But I still don't think that even he is that stupid. Plus, there is no physical evidence of Teresa being in Avery's trailer. To me that is a huge deal. My opinion is that Avery is such an ignoramus that if he did murder Teresa then there would be absolutely no doubt. He would have made a lot more mistakes and left evidence all over the place. Some people say that if he had killed her then he would have used the car crusher on her vehicle. I would like to think that is true.
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Post by zodius on Apr 14, 2020 20:40:02 GMT -8
Ed Edwards did it lol. I don't know who killd Teresa but I honestly don't believe that it was Avery and his nephew.
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Post by grasshopper on Sept 14, 2020 18:35:01 GMT -8
So what is the general opinion about Dassey's 'confession'? Seems to me like the detectives were feeding him the answers to their questions And the judges seem split on that Some agree but a lot of them say they cops did what they're trained to do lol So cops are trained to manipulate 16 year old kids with learning disabilities in order to get what they want? No matter if he's telling the truth or not they were just after anything to convict the person they wanted to convict The poor nephew was just a pawn and will spend the rest of his life in prison
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Post by grasshopper on Sept 14, 2020 18:41:02 GMT -8
I didn't see it but did some reading ,I think Steven Avery was her killer. He was the person who asked her to come to his salvage yard. To me that is a slam dunk He actually had business to discuss with her and had done business with her in the past So there is a record of her having an appointment to go to his property To me that is just bad luck and was the perfect opportunity for the sheriff's dept to set him up If he was planning on killing her why ask her to come out to his house? That makes no sense that someone would leave a trail back to them like that The sheriff's dept was not supposed to be involved in the investigation but they threw themselves into it to insure they got a conviction The key to Teresa's vehicle was not found after several searches of Avery's trailer and then it magically appears one day lol. And guess who finds it? Manitowoc Co Sheriff dept. Who were not supposed to be there in the first place
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Post by grasshopper on Sept 14, 2020 18:44:33 GMT -8
This might sound crazy but I dont think Teresa is even dead I think the sheriff's dept paid her to disappear to Canada Which means her family and probably a small handful of close friends all know and all had to lie and keep the secret
Either that or she was killed, someone found the body and called it in and the sheriff's dept made that person or people forget what they saw so they could take advantage of the opportunity that fell into their lap to frame Avery
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Post by ophion1031 on Sept 14, 2020 19:49:40 GMT -8
So what is the general opinion about Dassey's 'confession'? Seems to me like the detectives were feeding him the answers to their questions And the judges seem split on that Some agree but a lot of them say they cops did what they're trained to do lol So cops are trained to manipulate 16 year old kids with learning disabilities in order to get what they want? No matter if he's telling the truth or not they were just after anything to convict the person they wanted to convict The poor nephew was just a pawn and will spend the rest of his life in prison Fuck the cops! Yeah, that is part of their "procedure," to do whatever they have to to get a confession, but that is bullshit. They completely took advantage of a kid with serious learning disabilities. I knew some kids like Brendan when I was growing up. Very weak minded and they get nervous easily. You could pressure him into confessing to anything, seriously. What these pigs did is not right. Brendan really believed that if he just went along with what the cops were saying, he would go home soon and they would leave him alone. He didn't have the smarts to realize what was really happening. He has tried to tell the truth, that nothing happened, and nobody in the legal system will do anything bout it because they don't care if Avery and Dassey are innocent. They got their conviction, case closed.
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Post by ophion1031 on Sept 14, 2020 19:53:38 GMT -8
This might sound crazy but I dont think Teresa is even dead I think the sheriff's dept paid her to disappear to Canada Which means her family and probably a small handful of close friends all know and all had to lie and keep the secret Either that or she was killed, someone found the body and called it in and the sheriff's dept made that person or people forget what they saw so they could take advantage of the opportunity that fell into their lap to frame Avery Check out the first post in this thread.... I touched on this a little bit. I did kinda think Teresa getting paid or pressured to fake her own death made sense. After watching season 2, I started to rethink that idea. Sure, it is possible. Check out this link: georgezipperer.blogspot.com/2016/01/teresa-marie-halbach-dead-or-alive.html?fbclid=IwAR3AAajuq4A0f96JfCVTLBuTV7JXeKJne5gdGDsLlvlkyG54uVZf3pE3clkThe following comment, by "magiclougie," states that a large life insurance policy was paid out on Teresa. Could be something to that: "Some are seeing thru this sham job...yes the state was working as soon as they knew Steve would be released from prison. The state couldn't afford a battle with Steve after the PB case settlement of + or minus $36 million. Attorneys would be standing in line for his civil suit cases. They had all the proof they needed for the win. [–]Philly005 I'm of the belief that this was in the works probably as soon as those DNA results came back and they knew Avery was gonna be released...certainly once he filed the lawsuit at the latest. There's no doubt they were monitoring him and were listening in on his phone calls, and once they had the opportunity, they took it. Another reason why I can't put the Theresa was part of it theory to rest...it would make perfect sense if they set it all up, and we do know the previous autotrader girl was an agent. We also know that a large insurance policy for Theresa was paid for and then collected on...an unusually large one at that. Still pieces to the puzzle missing, but some of us can see what was going on..."
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Post by ophion1031 on Sept 15, 2020 0:12:11 GMT -8
www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurderer/comments/495i2v/i_finally_present_to_youa_legitimate_motive_for/I have been holding off on this a couple days...but I realized that by holding off on it, and not getting questions answered I needed, it's better to just share with you and we can connect the dots, as this Reddit likely has people in the careers I need answers from. Many know I posted the screenshot of what I believed was the key over Scott's shoulder. I felt that interview was going to be important, because it was just an interview of a grieving friend..no law enforcement attached to it. Nothing "tainted", or set up to appear staged. I was rewarded when I went back to look at it, because I began trying to use logic about this. Avery had no motive. Horny old man, hey maybe..but to pick that day of all the times she was there, then the sheer lack of DNA evidence..It's all too crazy for me to believe this...sorry Avery...moron, committed this crime. So what is out of place? Easy. Her videos. Her video saying "If I die before I am 31..", which was a school thing I guess, and the topic was due to her father dying at 31, I asked myself...if someone was worried about dying, what things would they do? They'd spend time accomplishing things they wanted, travel, more time with family...and do the one thing everyone should do. Have life insurance. If someone is talking about dying...this has to be on their mind. So, do we have any evidence TH had life insurance. We never have...of course we wouldn't. It's not public record. So I re-watched Scott's interview. 3 times...the package on WBAY did the good things, talked about her, showed the impact her missing has on her friend...and shows pictures of her with her friends..on her fridge. Her fridge...and it hit me. imgur.com/Rc5GAISThere is our first evidence that she COULD have had life insurance. The question is, how do we find out if a policy was ever paid out, and who to. Keep in mind a life insurance policy would need a death certificate, and they made damn sure to have one available quickly, hell even before her bones were identified. I told a friend about this, and she did a search on State Farm and Teresa Halbach and the other StevenAvery evidence site came up..and presented her with this nugget. static1.squarespace.com/static/5691be1b25981daa98f417c8/t/569850c64bf118ad2a6276d8/1452822727114/state+farm+letter+2.pdfSo you have a murder victim that COULD have been covered with life insurance. A sheriff whose insurance policy refused to cover him in case of a civil case loss. A family that acts VERY odd regarding their missing daughter. A fustercluck of a death certificate A document that lists Steven Avery as a "suspect, homicide" 64 minutes after being reported missing Family and friends being allowed INSIDE the crime scene to "search"...or potentially destroy evidence. Roommate and ex-bf questioned in the same room together, instead of treatment as suspects and put in seperate rooms Missing voicemails and hacked accounts. Missing personal journal, taken by an investigator and never entered as evidence. A possible video interview that MAY show her key in the house on the counter behind Scott Bloedern on Nov. 4th. A sheriff that claims this case is completely in the hands of Calumet but let's Manitowoc investigate completely. Declares Steven Avery is no more a suspect than anyone else while his entire investigation IS Steven Avery. Leave anything out?
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Post by grasshopper on Sept 15, 2020 10:17:53 GMT -8
So this Theresa in Washington has anyone dug into her background to see if she's telling the truth
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Post by grasshopper on Sept 15, 2020 10:20:16 GMT -8
Is that true Avery was a suspect 64 mins after Teresa is reported missing? If so that is proof of a set up Nobody knew she was dead at that point Or they did know but needed some time to plan out a way to pin it on Avery
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Post by ophion1031 on Sept 21, 2020 2:10:22 GMT -8
Is that true Avery was a suspect 64 mins after Teresa is reported missing? If so that is proof of a set up Nobody knew she was dead at that point Or they did know but needed some time to plan out a way to pin it on Avery There were a lot of different things that happened way too fast. Why? Because they were planning this from the get go. Check this link out. Manitowac Co. Sheriffs Dept may have been involved in a vehicular homicide hit and run in 1999. www.postcrescent.com/story/news/investigations/2016/09/14/mother-wants-forgive-hersons-killer/87542208/
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Post by grizzlegimp on Jan 20, 2021 21:10:08 GMT -8
LMAO @ people that think Teresa is still alive. DNA tests prove that she was murdered and her bone fragments were in that burn pit. I'm not saying that Avery did it because the Sheriff Dept had great motive for framing him but I do think people should stop spreadinf lies that Halbach is alive and living in Washington or Canada.
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Post by ophion1031 on Jan 23, 2021 21:18:21 GMT -8
LMAO @ people that think Teresa is still alive. DNA tests prove that she was murdered and her bone fragments were in that burn pit. I'm not saying that Avery did it because the Sheriff Dept had great motive for framing him but I do think people should stop spreadinf lies that Halbach is alive and living in Washington or Canada. The lady that took the stand in regards to the DNA could have been bribed and/or forced to say that it was Halbach's DNA. In a case like this where there is an obvious conflict of interest and a major motive by the Sheriffs, the rules go right out the window.
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Post by tyrant on Jan 25, 2021 22:22:47 GMT -8
Ed Edwards did it lol. I don't know who killd Teresa but I honestly don't believe that it was Avery and his nephew. What are your thoughts on that obese old man in the courthouse that looked like Edwards? Think it was him?
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