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Post by ophion1031 on Oct 20, 2019 23:29:08 GMT -8
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Post by grasshopper on Oct 27, 2019 1:50:37 GMT -8
I thought he died like 10 years ago lol
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Post by amazingates on Oct 28, 2019 14:52:35 GMT -8
Good Video. If you listen carefully, he tells us a lot without saying anything. He seems a lot more genuine than most. I like this guy... I know, I know, we are not suppose to like people like this lol. but I do. I'm not sure he should have rolled on everyone, but I can understand his REASON for doing so. When you are that close to people and trust them with your whole life, and they do something to you, then I guess they deserve what they get.... personally, anyway... but turning on "everyone as a whole" might not be a good thing to do "morally". I'm sure there are a lot of things he knows that no one will ever know. I think he picks and chooses who he talks about but I'm sure there is a whole lot more he will never ever say. At least I would like to think that. Again, I know.. I have a strange way of looking at things.
But if we don't pay attention to the "detail" he is talking about, but rather just analyze "why", there is a lot to learn and help to understand why people in this kind of life, do the things they do. We can apply that to just about anyone in any situation where someone is 'morally' and loyally tied to anything in a very deep way. I would say probably 1 % of the people are this way, maybe less, probably less. But every once in awhile I run into someone like this. I totally agree with him on one thing for sure... whatever in life is the rule for one set of people, needs to be the same for all... including our government for sure.
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Post by ophion1031 on Oct 28, 2019 19:37:59 GMT -8
I like Sammy as well. He's a straight shooter, and I agree that he has a certain way of saying things without actually saying them and incriminating himself. It was cool to hear his stories, even the ones that didn't have to do with the mob. He has lived quite an interesting life to say the least.
"whatever in life is the rule for one set of people, needs to be the same for all... including our government for sure."
Hell yes! I have an extreme hatred for the CIA and anyone who is "above the law." You would definitely dig the TV series that I just started writing. I have been planning it out for over a decade and have tons of good ideas, it's just a matter of translating it all to paper, which I am struggling with. But the concept is great and hopefully something comes of it because it would really open peoples eyes to what has really been going on for decades.
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Post by amazingates on Oct 28, 2019 19:44:46 GMT -8
I like Sammy as well. He's a straight shooter, and I agree that he has a certain way of saying things without actually saying them and incriminating himself. It was cool to hear his stories, even the ones that didn't have to do with the mob. He has lived quite an interesting life to say the least. "whatever in life is the rule for one set of people, needs to be the same for all... including our government for sure." Hell yes! I have an extreme hatred for the CIA and anyone who is "above the law." You would definitely dig the TV series that I just started writing. I have been planning it out for over a decade and have tons of good ideas, it's just a matter of translating it all to paper, which I am struggling with. But the concept is great and hopefully something comes of it because it would really open peoples eyes to what has really been going on for decades. ___________ you are my kind of people LOL. Hey I don't mind the authorities doing their "job", If I'm on the wrong side of the law and the law legitimately catches me etc, that is fine; but I do have a gripe if they lie or frame people etc, and they should not be involved in crime themselves and then arresting other people for the same things. They do a LOT worse than the criminals ever did. hmmm yes, I might like your tv series. I'm not writing a tv series, but I have stories up the wazoooo about this kind of thing. I'm just waiting for everyone to die before I say anything LOL
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Post by ophion1031 on Oct 28, 2019 22:36:55 GMT -8
That is my line of thinking as well. I have been busted for being dumb when I was younger a few times and had no ill will towards the cops because I was dumb enough to get caught. In general though I do not care for cops or anyone in law enforcement, but they don't bother me as long as they play by the rules.
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Post by amazingates on Oct 29, 2019 18:27:57 GMT -8
That is my line of thinking as well. I have been busted for being dumb when I was younger a few times and had no ill will towards the cops because I was dumb enough to get caught. In general though I do not care for cops or anyone in law enforcement, but they don't bother me as long as they play by the rules. __________ My thoughts exactly. Well I have stories and stories and stories and stories... And I've seen so much, I'll never trust them and I stay off their radar. I'm not saying they are all bad, but too many are. I'll just live in my own world and let them live in theirs. Feeling is mutual I believe; they don't like me either. haha. They always want to know what I know, and I'm not telling them, so they get mad. LOL It does bother me some that Sammy The Bull ratted people off, but in that world it happens all the time. Not that I agree with it, I don't. But things are not like they use to be back in the times when I was a kid. They people were not telling on you left and right, but they do now. So if you don't want to be told on, NEVER have a co-defendent. If you do, you might as well realize, one of them is going to one day roll on you. It's just a given. That's why I got out of that life, can't trust anyone. I'd really like to comment more on this thread about Sammy The Bull and goings on, but I think it best I don't. I've always figured some things are best left unsaid.
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Post by ophion1031 on Oct 29, 2019 20:38:44 GMT -8
That's exactly how I feel. I stay away from them they stay away from me. It's better that our paths don't cross at all haha. The cops here don't mess with me, but the ones back home where I grew up, that is another story.
I come from a place where people don't snitch and if they do then they get fucked up. Sammy's circumstances are pretty unique and I still don't agree with him ratting people out, but I try to put myself in his shoes and wonder if I would do the same. I also can't stand Tim Allen because he is a snitch. Well that and he just isn't funny.
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Post by amazingates on Oct 29, 2019 20:55:10 GMT -8
That's exactly how I feel. I stay away from them they stay away from me. It's better that our paths don't cross at all haha. The cops here don't mess with me, but the ones back home where I grew up, that is another story. I come from a place where people don't snitch and if they do then they get fucked up. Sammy's circumstances are pretty unique and I still don't agree with him ratting people out, but I try to put myself in his shoes and wonder if I would do the same. I also can't stand Tim Allen because he is a snitch. Well that and he just isn't funny. ______________- well you know, I have always thought this way.... in my life how I grew up, and all the crap I went through with the law etc(which I probably caused it myself in some ways, although not completely my fault as I was living on the street since age 11, so not totally my fault, but most was)....I've always thought, it's kinda like a war with me and the law... and to win is for me to stay out of their institutions... so that means to stop doing crazy stuff... so I did.... but... it also means that they are the people I like the least in my life, so telling them something is like helping my worst enemy. Kind of ironic I'm looking at unsolved cases and trying to figure them out LOL... but that is just my curiosity...I always was in the loop and I like to know what is going on still, even though I'm no longer living like that and have not for ages... but I still know a lot of what goes on. I'll talk about things I did that I have already paid the price for, I'll talk about things poeple did if they are dead now and it does not involve anyone else, I'll talk about generalities, but not specifics if it is going to get someone in trouble. If it is something that I think will get someone arrested, then I won't talk about that. I might talk about what I think happened etc, but I'm not going to just blast someone and tell who they are and what they did, unless they are dead. In the video of Sammy the Bull, when he is saying why he decided to do what he did, you can watch him as he talks and see that what they did to him devestated him totally. I get that; I had that happen to me in my life, and it devastated me. I just could not believe someone I was so close to did that to me. and like Sammy the Bull says about himself... I was "shocked", and I mean totally shocked. I would have never even believed it but I watched it happen through a 2-way mirror which the people did it. And not only did they tell on me, they also lied and made up another handful of things I never ever did. These were people who were like my family. In fact 2 of them were family. So right then and there I decided no more. I did what time they gave me, never said a word and I walked out and left, never said goodbye to anyone, and just left. Never went back, never talked to anyone again, and just put all that in the back of my mind and became someone else. I've compartmentalized all of that and rarely think about it, unless something triggers it, and then I just think "oh well" and go on living. They are all dead now. Most died horrible deaths... so I guess when it comes down to it, people who screw people who they are close to, end up dead one day. Not by me, but it happens along the way. I'm sad for them. But that is how people are. So I totally get how Sammy the Bull felt, and that is a horrible feeling. It's a wonder he did not kill them all... but you see, just because they did not like him as much as he thought they did and as much as he cared about them, does not mean he can kill them... because he was really the LOYAL one who REALLY CARED about them, so he did not kill them, he certainly could have... so I guess ratting them off was the lesser of two evils for THEM, but not really for HIM, because now he has to live with the fact that he became something he isn't either. It's a hard call what to do in that situation. But other than that, I like the guy by just listening to him and he seems pretty much for real to me.. and you don't see many real people these days. At least he stood up and admitted what he did, in stead of denying it and trying to hide
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