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Post by ophion1031 on Oct 21, 2019 22:46:56 GMT -8
From Richard Grinell's site... www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/the-albany-letters Mailed to the Albany Times Union newspaper and postmarked August 1st 1973, this correspondence was secured by Zodiac researcher Tom Voigt of the hugely successful website Zodiackiller.com. The letter suggested an impending threat of murder on the precise date of August 10th at 5.00 pm during a shift change at the Albany Medical Center. An FBI cryptanalysis unit deciphered the material at the foot of the letter to reveal the following: "ALBANY MEDICAL CENTER. THIS ONLY THE BEGINNING". The targeting of a nurse at the end of her shift would seem eerily similar to the disappearance of Donna Lass from the Sahara Tahoe Hotel on September 6th 1970. This is a debatable Zodiac letter, in which the author failed to follow through on his threat of murder. Rumblings of a Richard Gaikowski connection surfaced due to his familiarity with Albany, having worked for the Knickerbocker News from 1966 to the latter part of 1968, before traveling to Europe and then returning to America, relocating in Haight-Ashbury in San Francisco. However, there were notable crimes in the months and years surrounding the August 10th 1973 timeline, relative to the Albany Medical Center. The first was the murder of prostitute Gloria South (18), shot once behind her left ear with a .25 caliber pistol. Her body was found close to Morris and Lark Street, behind the Veterans Hospital. But this murder was committed approximately two years prior to the Albany letter, on June 29th 1971, despite the location being very close to the Albany Medical Center. Investigators had a prime suspect in this case, but without any solid evidence tying him to the crime, they were unable to make good on their suspicions. The second was a lot closer to the timeline, occurring four and a half months after the said date of August 10th 1973, on December 27th 1973, when Barbara Smith (24) of Hamilton Street, was murdered close to the St Philips Day Care Center on Road Street. The perpetrator had shot the young woman in the head, although it had failed to penetrate her skull. He had then used a rock to inflict the severe injuries noted at autopsy. This location was also close to the other murder, along with the Albany Medical Center. On November 2nd 1974, Kathleen Kolodziej vanished after leaving the Vault Bar in Cobleskill, having turned down the chance to return to her dormitory with a roommate - last seen heading along Main Street. The village of Coblekill lies approximately 40 miles west of Albany. Although not a confirmed sighting, she was last seen getting into a yellow Volkswagen Beetle just before 2:00 am. Twenty six days later on November 28th 1974 she was discovered on MacDonald Road, Richmondville, lying on a stone wall. She was partially clothed, having been brutally stabbed in the back and shoulders numerous times. Kathleen Kolodziej's autopsy was carried out at the Albany Medical Center. These murders occurred from June 1971 to November 1974. The Zodiac's hiatus in confirmed correspondence occurred between the March 13th 1971 'Los Angeles' letter or the questionable March 22nd 1971 'Pines' card, and January 29th 1974, with his last confirmed mailing to the San Francisco Chronicle newspaper, in the form of an 'Exorcist' letter. Is it possible the Zodiac switched from one location to another during this timeline, or is it more likely that the Zodiac Killer is simply being credited for crimes far and wide, with little other than letters as evidence? Many researchers question the nature of certain crimes having been committed by the Zodiac Killer, despite the fact he did once claim in the November 9th 1969 'Bus Bomb' letter that he would "change the way the collecting of slaves. I shall no longer announce to anyone. When I committ my murders, they shall look like routine robberies, killings of anger, + a few fake accidents, etc". The murders of Doreen Gaul (19) and James Sharp (15) provided another link, in that the Gaul residence was located on Myrtle Avenue, Albany, within touching distance of the Albany Medical Center. Doreen Gaul and James Sharp had been brutally murdered and disfigured - their bodies found on November 21st 1969 in a Los Angeles alleyway, between Arapahoe Street and Magnolia Avenue - although it was thought they had been killed at a secondary location. They had been stabbed over 50 times and their eyes were slashed. Doreen Gaul had been resident at the Scientology Thetan Manor hippie commune, having graduated one year earlier from high school in Albany. A note found in her room was claimed to have been authored by the Zodiac Killer. The letter found in in Doreen Gaul's belongings read: "SO YOU THINK YOU CAN FOOL THE OLD KILLER HA HA. I KNOW ALL YOUR MOVEMENTS AND THE TIME THEY ARE MADE. TIME IS SHORT, ENJOY LIFE WHILE YOU CAN. YOU ARE TO BEAUTIFUL TO LIVE AND I MUST KILL YOU. THE ZODIAC KILLER". Was the Zodiac a resident of Albany at some point, or had close ties with Albany, having known, or known of Doreen Gaul. The Zodiac link to Albany can be argued through both letters, but whether the Zodiac Killer ever set his Wing Walkers down in the streets of Albany, we may never know.
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Post by ophion1031 on Oct 21, 2019 23:00:47 GMT -8
Sandy sent me this link a few years ago. www.fsunews.com/story/news/2016/04/25/cryptic-message-discovered-outside-luxe/83522726/Residents of the Luxe found a disturbing note waiting for them on the sidewalk outside of their complex. “You were wrong. I am not dead or in the hospital. I am alive and well and I’m going to start killing again. Below is the name and location of my next victim. But you had better hurry because I’m going to kill her August 10 at 5:00pm when the shift change ALBANY is a nice town.” The threat is followed by a series of mysterious symbols. The text was discovered by a student, who wished to remain anonymous, and the image sent to WCTV Tallahassee. The text has since been erased and WCTV reports that the FSU Police Department are “aware of the message and are increasing patrols in the area,” while Tallahassee Police Department further investigates. A few in-depth searches will reveal that this is a rewrite of an unconfirmed letter from 1973 mailed to a medical center, potentially written by the infamous Zodiac killer. While never acted upon, the letter was considered a serious threat and potentially associated with a violent criminal. While a prank is likely, students are advised to take precautionary measures while the investigation continues.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 12, 2019 11:53:52 GMT -8
okay I've gone through this whole message now except for the code at the bottom. I can't even really see the symbols and number on it that well. so I'll just do the message first .
I'm just running through this pretty quickly; I'll come back through and recheck it. this looks like a multi-level message with instructions for the 340 AND some switched up stuff for locations and names of a murder.
You were wrong = you were LEFT(wrong is NOT RIGHT = LEFT) I am not dead - ? aded? added? - if you are not added you are left out, so probably means NOT ADDED
left and not added is the check, they both mean left. so we know we are going LEFT on something _____
or in the hosPITAL . PIT not in the PIT... (In the Hospital = inside the word hospital = PIT) grave I'm not in a grave, I'm alive and well.... A Veil Waterhole ( ?Bridal Veil Falls?) ( not a well) but a pit is a hole and so is well and both both pit and well are holes, to this checks . and alive = A veil... I'm thinking this is Bridal Veil Falls? is there another VEIL falls somewhere? this is in YOSEMITE = Omit EYES (this is going to tell us to use the Halloween card to get a message.
Below is the name - go down, there is a name, ID, or might be "go down mane = MAIN" and location - so it is a location my next victim... next- following, by, but you had better HURRY = dashing. at the DASHES Cause - beginning, origin, source, creator, end, prime mover . hmmmm 13 is prime, is the cross, move it i'm going to kill Her . kill Her = end Her August 10th... go to 10 column from HER end. which is the beginning and Her is at the LEFT end (not right, not wrong, but left) at 5 pm. the 5th letter by pm(which is the D on the Cross you have to MOVE)down 5 letters to BY PM(on the 340)
when the shift change ( you shift and change)
Albany = (shift and change) by Alan is A (analisa) n(in) ice town. or... nice town=Paradise either in Paradise or yosemite where ( I am not sure what this is saying)
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so let's go to the 340 with the halloween card -Yosemite - omit eyes, so that is the halloween card with the eyes cut out... and follow the direction to 10 letters over from HER at the end on the left. come down that line and hit the word "by". that is also the 5th letter of the CROSS. the D... on the other side of by is the PM, so that is 5 pm...
then I get a bit lost what to do.. so after by I just followed on over and it said SWITCH CHANGE. I know I am suppose to switch and change the next sentence . Albany is a nice town, and that comes out by analisa a (N)ice town. see above... in ice town with VEIL and hole above with yosemite is bridal veil falls in yosemite california, but what do we do with the omit eyes and those instructions on the 340 when we get to BY fifth letter of the CROSS on Paradise, which is the D letter, and by pm. we are to MOVE the (omit eyes) halloween punch out, but to where? there is another BY right there on the DASH line, so if we put it there(it is also 10 lines down) . now again, my halloween card and my 340 are not sized to the original so mine could be off the letters a bit, but the closest ones through the eyeholes when I do this... is BTK... this is unreal...
now I really am being very careful here because even though I think there is a possibility that BTK is tangled up in the group of Zodiac, I'm not so sure he is the killer of all these people in california, it seems nearly impossible for him to be all over cali, so if these messages keep turning out (4 now) to point to BTK, the what is really going on here? This just can't keep turning out like this and not mean SOMETHING.
I REALLY need someone to take the instructions I just decoded and get the halloween card and the 340 in the right original sizes, punch out the eyes in the halloween card, put it on the 340, and follow the directions and see what someone finds. i know the decoding in the message is correct. but what is baffling me is how and why everytime I follow the directions we end up on the 340 and saying BTK and then there was RADER, and also in the BTK puzzle in the center it said Zodiac. This can't ALL be flukey coincidence that just randomly happend. once or even twice, okay, maybe a fluke, 4 times now? hmmm someone please help me get the card and the 340 to the correct original sizes so those punched out eyes on the halloween card will line up correctly on the 340 letters.
in the meantime I'm going to go look for a murder of "analisa" or in a "nice town = Paradise or in an ice town Yosemite... or might even be by Alan/allen, which there is allen in Amador county that I know of on highway 88, up by kirkwood, I think there might be a ski resort up there. just like there is in peek through the pines card... all this for discussion elsewhere when I have time.
there are also other bridal veil falls... Bridal Veil Falls (Skagway, Alaska), a waterfall in Alaska Bridal Veil Falls (Valdez-Cordova Census Area, Alaska), in Keystone Canyon, flowing into the Lowe River Bridal Veil Falls (Catskill Mountains), Catskill Mountains, New York Bridal Veil Falls (Colorado Springs), Colorado Springs, Colorado Bridal Veil Falls (DuPont State Forest), DuPont State Forest, North Carolina
Bridal Veil Falls (Eldorado), Eldorado National Forest, California (this is south tahoe included) has twice the amount of unsolved murders as larger surrounding counties. up in the tahoe are like donna lass
Bridal Veil Falls (Glenwood Springs), Glenwood Springs, Colorado Bridal Veil Falls (Idaho Springs), Idaho Springs, Colorado Bridal Veil Falls (Macon County), Highlands, North Carolina Bridalveil Falls (Michigan) at Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore, Michigan Bridal Veil Falls (Minnesota), Minneapolis, Minnesota Bridal Veil Falls (New Hampshire), Franconia, New Hampshire Bridal Veil Falls (Niagara Falls), New York, one of the Niagara Falls Bridal Veil Falls (Ohio), Bedford, Ohio Bridal Veil Falls (Oregon), Bridal Veil Falls State Park, Oregon Bridal Veil Falls (Pennsylvania), Bushkill Falls, Pennsylvania Bridal Veil Falls (Rocky Mountain National Park), Rocky Mountain National Park, Colorado Bridal Veil Falls (South Dakota), Spearfish, South Dakota Bridal Veil Falls (Telluride), Telluride, Colorado Bridal Veil Falls (Tennessee), Monteagle, Tennessee Bridal Veil Falls (University of the South), University of the South in Sewanee campus Bridal Veil Falls (Utah), Provo Canyon, Utah County, Utah Bridal Veil Falls (Washington), Gold Bar, Washington Bridalveil Fall, Yosemite National Park, California
I also need to see if there is a Veil Fall (without bridal in it)
we could have a town by another town called ALLEN, ALLAN, ALAN.... we could have a town by a town called Paradise. We could have a town that is considered very cold and icy, high elevation - ice town. we could have a town where there is a huge ice plant?
there are several falls on highway 50, not way far from kirkwood, which is by Allen, but it seems maybe too far. There is a bridal falls in yosemite, and can't find anything there but the murders by Stayner and those are not them....there is a town in New York called allen, going to go look around there.
Allen New York is 4 1/2 hours out of Albany, going towards niagra falls. there is an allen state forest by Allen. There is a place right be their called Angelica. There is a phillips Creek state forest there. there is a tiny little town near Allen, that is called Bliss, that might be a NICE town.
The Bridal Veil Falls is the smallest of the three waterfalls that make up Niagara Falls. it's 2 hours from the town of Allen, I would not consider that "BY" each other. there is a WELLLAND, but that makes no sense. there is goat island and hells half acre, but nothing like that is mentioned in the message.
oh wait, alan, might be LANA... let me look for a town named Lana, of a murder of someone named LANA. same letters as in alan. so that would mean Lana is in a nice town, or lana is in an ice town. let me go look for that... okay looked all over for Lana and found nothing that would work, so going back to ALLEN again.
okay so far the best I can find is ALLEN, CA . 10 miles from the Kirkwood town and ski resort... definitely is an ICE town. It's on highway 88 in california, going to tahoe. It is in amador county. Its on the Bear River and the peak is 8,113 feet elevation, so definitely ice, and there is year round skiing there. now to find a missing person or 1973 murder up or around there. and see if there are falls right there. there are a couple of bridal veil fall not Too far from there, but they are not really close... so I don't know. I'll go see if I can find a missing person or murder up around there in 1973. but if this is the case, someone had to leave NY, come to cali and commit the murder, or if z is a group, have one of the other people do it. either is possible. It is really hard to say if this is the right place or not but it fits pretty well. but there might be some other place that fits well and I just did not find it
we need to try to work on the symbol code at the bottom of the message and see if more info in there. If we can't find this place, then either the message is a lie, or this is not from zodiac. It does seem to work for the Z code, but not quite the same style of words chosen for the meanings... some parts of it are really hard but other parts are so easy you wonder. but that does not mean the writer was not tired and just lax and lazy in hiding some of the meanings. other parts of it are really hard. the easy parts will check, but they check too easily for me to be comfortable. I'll go through it again later and see what else might be in there I missed... but the part for omitting eyes and looking on the 340 is pretty easy. and I don't think anyone could do that but the writer of the 340
oh and there is a little town of PLASSE, not far from Allen which means "the gift of God". I thought that interesting.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 12, 2019 11:57:07 GMT -8
I wish we could see the stamps on the letters... what kind of stamps are used means something also.
what if they have a stamp of the area of the body if there is one? We need to know what stamps were on here.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 12, 2019 12:14:40 GMT -8
I also see a few other things going on in there, and looks like the O in the OR beginning the second line in the message... that O looks like a heart..if so, I might have a clue what that is about. ugh . does that look like a HEART to anyone else?
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Post by amazingates on Nov 12, 2019 12:18:54 GMT -8
God, WHOEVER is writing this these messages is DAMN GOOD. they can take one message and make multi-level messages. This is no novice coder. And writing code is just as hard if not harder than reading it. so whoever this is, is very well learned in this stuff. this is not someone who just picked up some cryptic off the wall puzzles and learned this stuff. who IS this?
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