Post by amazingates on Nov 18, 2019 10:51:25 GMT -8
The Coding Of The Zodiac - Same Code - Different Styles
I've been working on the Zodiac codes for a very long time now - years
and I have understood this kind of coding most my life... but I see something going on that is kinda weird.
Here is what I'm wondering, and why......
Sometimes the coding is easy or lax... lax, I get that, whoever writing it just does not want to take the time to make it REALLY hidden, so they don't hide it or complicate it that much.
Other times it is soooo dang complicated and hidden and advanced, I have a really hard time working it out.
I had thought it might be because, although the same code, there is more than one person writing the messages using it. So one is more advanced and writes it more hidden and complex. And sometimes the person writing it seems to have a lot more extensive vocabulary and a series of words as thought they have a specific profession and use those words rather than some more common ones than some less educated in a specific field.
But today I got to thinking..... I already know these messages are not always to the police. If they were, they would be sent to them directly to make sure they got there and not be taking the chance that the newspapers would just think some nut is writing gobbly-gook, and toss it in the garbage. So they have a reason for sending it to the newspapers and not directly to the police.... reason must be that they are writing to someone else out there somewhere and they don't want to be sending anything through the mail and have someone know who they are sending it to, and they don't want anyone sending it to them at an address or they might be found if someone traces it. And they want NO CONNECTION AT ALL with the person they are writing back and forth with.
so.... who are these letters going to? well, on the surface they are suppose to be communications for the police to read.. a taunting... but that is definitely NOT what this is... that is pretty obvious, that the non-sensical taunting surface messages are all non-sense and do not mean anything that it appears to be. They are all coded, that is a given... So they are coded in a way for the police/feds to be able to read them. The police have a KEY, you know they do. but WHAT key is the question? one to read a simple layer of the message? most likely so... but then you get these really advanced messages with multi-layering, that I bet you anything the feds do not have the KEY to that. so just who are these complex messages meant for? Someone out there the Zodiac knows very well? I think so.
So what this is telling me is. There are messages for the police/feds... but there are messages for someone else as well. And this makes perfect sense... because if the messages were for ONLY the police/feds, they would just send them to the police/feds, not to a newspaper where they could be tossed out and never get to the police/feds. I have pretty much always thought this, and that they were coding to someone else out there and using the newspapers to do it...
But here is what I'm getting at now... because some of these messages are soooo dang complex and have so many layers etc, and so advanced in the wording and use so many of the rules in one sentence, some of these messagage are written by an advanced coder who wants ONLY CERTAIN people to understand them. They are not the same level of skill they use for the police. and all of this makes perfect sense. Write some half-ass code to the police so the police THINK all the messages are to them(the police), give them a key for the surface meanings. THEN write what you want to tell your own people, with a much more advanced skill level, and hide in it another layer, so the police think they have it figured out, but they don't see the deeper levels. The police go ahead and print the stuff in the news, and the coders have an unknowing source(the news) to use to communicate back and forth without any connections for the police to hook up... and the police are the ones actually helping them do this, without knowing it.
so just who is coding back and forth? well, I have some ideas. and the more we tear apart these communications the more that surfaces. So the only way to know what is really going on, it to tear them all apart and try to make sure we get down to the deep levels.
so I think we have several coders. I'm sure of it. We have more than one handwriting, but it is the same code so that is how we can tell if the communications are real or not... not by the handwriting, but by the code. People out there on the street just fooling around and writing FAKE Zodiac letters probably are not going to know the code. So that is how I always decide if I personally think the communication is real of not... if it has the coding and makes sense, they it is most likely a real Zodiac communication. If it just is words and doesn't code out, then it probably is not Zodiac.
Because I think this is a group, we can have different "scribes" doing the actual handwriting. And of course that means different DNA on anything they test. so I don't rule out anyone because the DNA does not match. We also have different coders creating these messages. The code is the same, the styles are different. Some very advanced and a few almost beginner in parts of them. A couple of them get so complex and hard, I have a really hard time figuring them out... I'm pretty good at doing these, but I'm certain not the BEST at it. Some of it takes me awhile to sort it out and get the right words and make it CHECK. But eventually I do get it to CHECK and so I know it is as complicated at times as I think it is; if not, it would not Check Out in the end when I finally do "get it" ...
so how many coders do we have creating these messages? I'm not sure. but there is more than one, I can "see" that. How many scribes do we have. well that is pretty easy to tell as the handwriting will tell us that. We definitely have a group here doing all of this. How big of group, I don't know. But it has to be several people.
I've been working on the Zodiac codes for a very long time now - years
and I have understood this kind of coding most my life... but I see something going on that is kinda weird.
Here is what I'm wondering, and why......
Sometimes the coding is easy or lax... lax, I get that, whoever writing it just does not want to take the time to make it REALLY hidden, so they don't hide it or complicate it that much.
Other times it is soooo dang complicated and hidden and advanced, I have a really hard time working it out.
I had thought it might be because, although the same code, there is more than one person writing the messages using it. So one is more advanced and writes it more hidden and complex. And sometimes the person writing it seems to have a lot more extensive vocabulary and a series of words as thought they have a specific profession and use those words rather than some more common ones than some less educated in a specific field.
But today I got to thinking..... I already know these messages are not always to the police. If they were, they would be sent to them directly to make sure they got there and not be taking the chance that the newspapers would just think some nut is writing gobbly-gook, and toss it in the garbage. So they have a reason for sending it to the newspapers and not directly to the police.... reason must be that they are writing to someone else out there somewhere and they don't want to be sending anything through the mail and have someone know who they are sending it to, and they don't want anyone sending it to them at an address or they might be found if someone traces it. And they want NO CONNECTION AT ALL with the person they are writing back and forth with.
so.... who are these letters going to? well, on the surface they are suppose to be communications for the police to read.. a taunting... but that is definitely NOT what this is... that is pretty obvious, that the non-sensical taunting surface messages are all non-sense and do not mean anything that it appears to be. They are all coded, that is a given... So they are coded in a way for the police/feds to be able to read them. The police have a KEY, you know they do. but WHAT key is the question? one to read a simple layer of the message? most likely so... but then you get these really advanced messages with multi-layering, that I bet you anything the feds do not have the KEY to that. so just who are these complex messages meant for? Someone out there the Zodiac knows very well? I think so.
So what this is telling me is. There are messages for the police/feds... but there are messages for someone else as well. And this makes perfect sense... because if the messages were for ONLY the police/feds, they would just send them to the police/feds, not to a newspaper where they could be tossed out and never get to the police/feds. I have pretty much always thought this, and that they were coding to someone else out there and using the newspapers to do it...
But here is what I'm getting at now... because some of these messages are soooo dang complex and have so many layers etc, and so advanced in the wording and use so many of the rules in one sentence, some of these messagage are written by an advanced coder who wants ONLY CERTAIN people to understand them. They are not the same level of skill they use for the police. and all of this makes perfect sense. Write some half-ass code to the police so the police THINK all the messages are to them(the police), give them a key for the surface meanings. THEN write what you want to tell your own people, with a much more advanced skill level, and hide in it another layer, so the police think they have it figured out, but they don't see the deeper levels. The police go ahead and print the stuff in the news, and the coders have an unknowing source(the news) to use to communicate back and forth without any connections for the police to hook up... and the police are the ones actually helping them do this, without knowing it.
so just who is coding back and forth? well, I have some ideas. and the more we tear apart these communications the more that surfaces. So the only way to know what is really going on, it to tear them all apart and try to make sure we get down to the deep levels.
so I think we have several coders. I'm sure of it. We have more than one handwriting, but it is the same code so that is how we can tell if the communications are real or not... not by the handwriting, but by the code. People out there on the street just fooling around and writing FAKE Zodiac letters probably are not going to know the code. So that is how I always decide if I personally think the communication is real of not... if it has the coding and makes sense, they it is most likely a real Zodiac communication. If it just is words and doesn't code out, then it probably is not Zodiac.
Because I think this is a group, we can have different "scribes" doing the actual handwriting. And of course that means different DNA on anything they test. so I don't rule out anyone because the DNA does not match. We also have different coders creating these messages. The code is the same, the styles are different. Some very advanced and a few almost beginner in parts of them. A couple of them get so complex and hard, I have a really hard time figuring them out... I'm pretty good at doing these, but I'm certain not the BEST at it. Some of it takes me awhile to sort it out and get the right words and make it CHECK. But eventually I do get it to CHECK and so I know it is as complicated at times as I think it is; if not, it would not Check Out in the end when I finally do "get it" ...
so how many coders do we have creating these messages? I'm not sure. but there is more than one, I can "see" that. How many scribes do we have. well that is pretty easy to tell as the handwriting will tell us that. We definitely have a group here doing all of this. How big of group, I don't know. But it has to be several people.