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Post by amazingates on Dec 8, 2019 18:47:34 GMT -8
Troy Houghton (Minuteman) Catch All Thread
Being that I think Troy Houghton is connected to the Zodiac Case, I wanted to get all the info about Troy I can get and get it out here. So I'm starting this thread as a "Catch All" thread for Troy Houghton. We can put all the info we can find on this thread and then Ophion can sort through it later and get it all organized. Ophion just does not have the time to be looking up everything without help, so I'll see what all I can do to "gather" info and stick it on this thread.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 8, 2019 19:05:31 GMT -8
First I want to try to show you exactly who Troy Houghton is, who his family is, what are things that identify him; how if someone knew him, and if they read the Zodiac communications, they could see right off the Zodiac communication clues are about him. I believe the Zodiac Communications have a lot of info in them about Troy Houghton, but to make that clear to others, we have to know what "identifies" Troy Houghton. If people are getting clues and do not know anything about the person the clues are about, they can't figure out the clues or what they are pointing to. But once you know who Troy Houghton is and things about him that would identify him to others he knew, then you can see why I think so many of the Zodiac Clues in the Zodiac communications are pointing to Troy Houghton.
And even if he is not connected to Zodiac, at least we will have a tremendous amount of info about him to help in our research of the Minutemen.
I am going to start with his Family Genealogy, so we get all the names that might be clues, we get to see what values he might have grown up with, who he knew, who might have influenced his life, and where was he located and when, or who he was related to that might have help to hide him or help him.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 8, 2019 19:06:48 GMT -8
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Post by amazingates on Dec 8, 2019 19:14:15 GMT -8
Now let's get his genealogy on here, so we can see who all he is connected to who might have helped him, addresses where he might have stayed, and what names in this are used as clues in the Zodiac Communications (as I believe they were)... but if not, then at least we will know who he was connected to, where he might have went to stay, the areas he might have been in and who might have helped him.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 8, 2019 19:59:11 GMT -8
Troy Houghton's Genealogy Troy Houghton also had a few aka's ... I'm trying to find out where they came from. Some came from his family member's names. Name Harold Troy HoughtonBirth Date 30 Sep 1933 Gender Male Mother's Maiden Name Alderman Birth County Los Angeles This is from the 1940 Census, they are listed at 5669 Saturn St, Los Angeles, California
Troy is listed as TROY, 6 yrs old, born in California. His parents are both 39 at the time, his father born in Utah and his mother born in Idaho. I have seen his mother's name spelled both Vahl and VAL. Troy Houghton's Mother Name Minnie Vahl Alderman (She is also listed as Vahl and Val on other documents) Birth Date 11 Mar 1902 Birth Place Garpster, Idaho, Idaho, USA Father Hosey Sheldon Alderman (Troy's Maternal grandfather) Mother Elvarill Isabel Hocket (Troy's Maternal grandmother) Certificate Year 1902 Certificate Number 355382 Household Members Minnie Vahl Alderman (Troy's Mother) Elvarill Isabel Hocket Hosey Sheldon Alderman Troys Mother Minnie Vahl Alderman ( When she married Troy's father Harold Troy Houghton) April 19, 1922 in Los Angeles, California
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Post by amazingates on Dec 8, 2019 20:02:54 GMT -8
Gathering addresses of Troy Houghton (as I find them, I'll put them in order according to dates. 1922
Troy's parents Harold Eugene Houghton and Sylvia Manhart/Manhard are married April 19, 1922 in Los Angeles, CA 1924 Troy's Father, Harold Eugene Houghton is listed in the city directory at 625 Loomis st. Los Angeles, CA also listed at that address is R E Houghton. (I don't know who that is yet) 1942
Troy's parents on the voter's registration for Los Angeles County. Troy's father is an ARTIST Mother is Housewife. Mother Listed at Mrs Vahl A(for maiden name of Alderman) Both are Democrats 1992Name Troy Houghton Phone Number 746-0545 Address 120 Whittier Rd, Pleasant Hill, 94523-4130 (1992), CA
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Post by amazingates on Dec 8, 2019 20:21:35 GMT -8
Troy's Father - Harold E Houghton Harold Eugene HoughtonBIRTH 18 JAN 1901 • Spanish Fork, Utah, USA DEATH 16 MAY 1957 • Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA Troy is not listed in his Father's Obituary Name Harold E Houghton Birth Date 1901 Military Date 11 Dec 1942 Publication Date 1 Jul 1944 Title Commissioned and Warrant Officers of the United States Naval and Reservecolumns are file #......... ........Name............Rank..Class..Schools..Date ..birth yr...Pay EntryLooks like he joined 1941 - but this is listed on the July 1, 1944. So he was in the Naval & Reserve from at least 1941-44(I might find more later)
Troy's Father Harold Eugene Houghton and Troy's paternal grandparents Eli Kelsey Houghton and Sylvia (nee Manhart, sometimes as Manhard)
Troy's Paternal uncles Ned M and Don C HoughtonHere is Harold Eugene Houghton on the 1910 Census in the Fairview Precinct in Bingham County, Idaho. He is listed with his father, Eli Kelsey Houghton; his mother, Sylvia (nee Manhart, sometimes Manhard); brothers, Ned M and Don C; and a hired man, George Manning. His father and mother both born in Utah. Interestingly enough they are living next door to David Bates, wife Myrtle, son Wesley and son Lawrence. Probably just a fluke with Bates, but I'll check to see if Myrtle could possibly a Houghton living next door.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 8, 2019 22:05:13 GMT -8
I'm finding the grandparents so I can find the aunts and uncles of troy, then I can find his cousins who are his age and see if he could have went to hide out where they were.
Troy's Maternal Grandparents are
Hosea Sheldon "Hosey" Alderman (Troy's Maternal Grandfather)
Hosea Sheldon "Hosey" Alderman BIRTH 07 JUL 1861 • Story City, Story, Iowa, United States DEATH 16 MAY 1908 • Starbuck, Columbia, Washington USA
Elverre "Elvira" Hocket (Troy's Maternal Grandmother)
Elveree "Elvira" Hockett BIRTH OCT 1869 • Mahaska, Iowa, USA DEATH 1903 • Clearwater Co., ID
Troy's Uncles on his mother's side
Dwight Alderman BIRTH MAR 1886 • Iowa City, Wright, Iowa, United States DEATH Unknown
Forest "Hayden" Alderman ( Married Mary Sams /second wife Dec 29, 1922) BIRTH 11 SEPT 1889 • Keokuk Township, Wapello, Iowa, USA DEATH 12 FEB 1982 • Milton-Freewater, Umatilla, Oregon, USA
Claude Sheldon Alderman (Married Melissa pearl McComas Nov 2, 1920, Grangeville, Idaho) BIRTH 10 DEC 1893 • Story City, Story, Iowa, United States DEATH 26 SEP 1972 • Kootenai, Bonner, Idaho, United States
Hosea "Hozy" Clay Alderman ( Married Jeanette A. Cochran/Anna J Cochran Jan 26, 1924, Nez Perce, Idaho) BIRTH 1 NOV 1895 • Story City, Story, Iowa, United States DEATH 8 NOVEMBER 1968 • Chewelah, Stevens, Washington, United States of America Buried Orofino, Clearwater County, Idaho, United States of America, nov, 8, 1968
Victor Glass Alderman ( also listed as Victor H Alderman) BIRTH 26 OCT 1901 • Harpster, Idaho, Idaho, United States DEATH 18 OCT 1951 • Grangeville, Idaho, Idaho, USA
Troy's Aunts on his mother's side
Nellie Opal Alderman ( married Malcom D. Manring, Nov. 2, 1906, Idaho) BIRTH DEC 1891 • Story, Iowa USA DEATH 25 JAN 1959 • Spokane, Spokane, Washington
Mabel Alderman (Died as baby) BIRTH 1896 • Stockbridge, Hampshire DEATH 1896 • Stockbridge, Hampshire
Minnie Isabelle Alderman BIRTH 17 MAR 1899 • Harpster, Idaho, Idaho, United States DEATH Idaho, United States Residence 1910 Lost Springs, Columbia, Washington, USA (9 yrs old, listed as a boarder in house of William J and Minnie M McDaniel)
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Post by amazingates on Dec 8, 2019 22:39:04 GMT -8
Troy married Bettie E Jones
Divorce Name: Bettie E Jones Spouse Name: Troy H Houghton ( Harold Troy Houghton) Location: San Diego City Date: Feb 1972
Troy Houghton and Bettie E Jones' son
Name: Troy Jones Houghton Birth Date: 21 Dec 1955 Gender: Male Mother's Maiden Name: Jones Birth County: San Diego
Name: Troy Jones Houghton [Troy J Houghton] Gender: Male Race: White Birth Date: 21 Dec 1955 Birth Place: National City, California [National Cit] Death Date: 10 Jun 2002 SSN: 567236195 Notes: 18 May 1973: Name listed as TROY JONES HOUGHTON; 18 Jun 2002: Name listed as TROY J HOUGHTON
Name: Troy J Houghton Birth Date: 21 Dec 1955 Phone Number: 938-8605 Address: PO Box 116, Big Pine, CA, 93513-0116 [PO Box 32, Big Pine, CA, 93513-0032 (1995)] [440 W Crocker Ave, Big Pine, CA, 93513-2031 (1993)] [440 W Crocker Ave, Big Pine, CA, 93513-2031 (1995)]
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Post by ophion1031 on Dec 9, 2019 0:53:22 GMT -8
I'll copy and paste what info I have on Houghton from my old site..... TROY HAROLD HOUGHTONBorn: Sept. 30, 1933 (raised in Los Angeles) Parents: Harold E. Houghton and Vahl Houghton (maiden name Alderman) Marriage: Married Bettie Jones in 1954. They had 3 children together. Known Arrests: March 1, 1957 on a charge of indecent exposure. Nov. 11, 1961 for failure to register as a sex offender. 1966 for possession of a gun with a silencer. Sentenced to 3 years in prison, but disappeared before the sentence was carried out. *There are other arrests that I have to find the details on* Aliases: Troy Haughton, Dan Alderman, Troy Boyle, Troy Epick. He also used the name "Jack" while giving a speech near UCLA once to hide his identity, but most of the people in attendance knew it was Houghton. "Troy Houghton, at thirty-four years of age, cut a commanding figure in the land of southern California palm trees, sun, surf and smog with his heavy head of dark, flat-topped hair, horn-rimmed glasses and demeanor of intense purpose. Aggressive and frequently articulate, the Minutemen's West Coast coordinator is sometimes inclined to outbursts of temper, acts of mischief, a wide, indefatigable range of suspicions and a certain inability to please law-enforcement officers, as his long and somewhat bizarre police record illustrates. Houghton lived in a tidy, one-story home in San Diego with his pretty, dark-haired wife, the former Bettie Jones of southern Iowa farm upbringing, and their three little boys. Troy and Bettie Houghton were married in 1954 while he was a service-station attendant and she an art student in Los Angeles. Soon, Troy was on his way to the Panamint Mountains on the west edge of Death Valley, intending to prospect for uranium. Their interest turned to tungsten soon after their arrival in the mountains. At the time, the government was paying a good price for tungsten, but by the time they had mined a sizable amount and were ready to sell, the price had dropped to unprofitable depths. Their many months in the wilderness had gone almost for naught. They earned enough to pay for their bread and butter, but little more. The Houghton's moved back to Los Angeles in 1956 and Troy did some part-time work with a UCLA geologist before leaving again for the mountains with Bettie, this time to mine for silver and lead. A flash flood from a cloudburst washed out their camp, destroying much of their equipment. This time the Houghton's abandoned the mining business for good. [Soon afterward] Troy had become interested in the need, as he puts it, "to establish an underground army ahead of the Communist take-over." In 1961, after they had settled in San Diego, Bettie said, the newspapers, not Troy, informed Bettie of the nature of Troy's new interest -- guerrilla warfare and the Minutemen." Houghton was short and stocky and had the widow's peak, matching what most people believe the Zodiac looked like. He also has a "large face" that matches up with the description of the killer. And, of course, he had the horn-rimmed glasses. The Minutemen used the cross-hair symbol before the Zodiac. The Minutemen also had a "little list," which the Zodiac said in one of his letters - "I have a little list." Troy's wife last heard from him in May 1967. An FBI document I found said that Houghton's garage was filled with bins that contained several types of paper, different sized envelopes, stamps, various types of stationary, pamphlets etc. The man who told this to the FBI was an employee of Houghton's father at a printing company. Nov. 1961. Houghton and Colley fight over control over the Southern California Minutemen. Houghton won and obviously did not resign. Shortly after Houghton's disappearance, his car was found abandoned in Missouri with 13 bullet holes in it. EDIT: Notice that under the photo of Houghton's car it says 1963. This contradicts what has been said about the 13 bullet holes and the car being discovered after Houghton's disappearance.
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Post by ophion1031 on Jun 13, 2021 0:33:27 GMT -8
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Post by ophion1031 on Jun 13, 2021 0:37:54 GMT -8
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Post by ophion1031 on Jun 13, 2021 0:38:09 GMT -8
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