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Post by amazingates on Dec 13, 2019 14:42:22 GMT -8
Tearing Apart The My Name Is Cipher & LetterThere is a LOT of stuff going on here. I really should be doing these in the order they were sent, but i haven't been. Once we get them all torn apart then we can go back through them all again and see if "together" they give us more clues. I am sure they will, however, I don't believe we have everything in between anyway.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 13, 2019 14:53:30 GMT -8
This is the Zodiac speaking By the way have you cracked the last cipher I sent you ? My name is ______ at first I just go through this and put out there anything that might look like it is working, within reason, I do know the rules... then I'll come back through and see what CHECKS and what doesn't. If it does not CHECK we toss that part out.
It is going to take awhile to do this, so I'll work on it over and over as I go This is the Zodiac - speaking - not writing, talking, dice By the way - by the way.... near the path "By", There are going to be instructions how to use the bus bomb diagram to find the path in the 340, that you are to use. The 340 has many pathways and gates(thus my name amazin gates{I'll explaing the Gates of Zodiac later on}), and the letters give instructions how to use the different pathways, and tell you where the gates are. I'll explain this later as I show you where the GATE is that this communication takes you to. just making a note -"the way" use to be a modern worded Bible then, and some people thought it was a cult (I just remembered THE CULT", hmmm) . look in the 340 for the path near the BY word. have you - got U, you, ewe, sheep, lamb, cracked . broken it up, scrambled, cracked part of it off the last - not the first, the last, broke it up cracked it, crack it off, split it ok if we look on the 340 By the way... we have "BY" = near, so we look by those BY words on the 340, it is telling you that one of the BYS is one of your gate. Now we have to find which gate this communication is telling us to go through.... then we will be able to find the path. cipher - I'm not sure what he is doing here. he spells cypher and cipher different ways so have to come back to this, might be telling us to crack off the last letter R leaving ciphe? and at the moment I don't know what ciphe is yet, and it might not be telling us to crack off the R but it is certainly seeming we are to crack something off of a word. and being right before this it is saying "crack the last" cipher... the R is the last letter in the word cipher, so we might suppose to crack the R off, i'm not sure yet. whatever we do their will be checks to make sure we did it right. or not. let's look at cipher, crack off the R... = ciphe... = pi che . Che is a Spanish diminutive interjection commonly used in Argentina. It is a form of colloquial slang used in a vocative sense as "friend", and thus loosely corresponds to expressions such as "mate", "pal", "man", "bro", or "dude" Pi is the ratio of circle's circumference to its diameter. ... So he used the letter Pi, (perifereia), meaning periphery or perimeter, describing the circumference of a circleNow this is just a guess until we get a CHECK. If we can't find a check then it is wrong.so could he be talking about a CIRCLE OF FRIENDS/Pals? I - I, eye, see C ... sometimes this refers to the Halloween card eyes. I'm not sure if it does here or not, since we have the bus bomb in this one, and it is the new bomb. So we are probably not using the Halloween card on this one, rather we are going to be given instructions how to find the right GATE and take a PATH to get the message. this might be something new we use and not the halloween card this time. sent - sent, scent, cent, tens, gave, mailed, delivered .... I don't know what this is yet. tens =10's, it might be telling us something to do with rows or columns, but don't know yet you ? gave U ( we had "have you" above here) what are we suppose to do with the U, you, ewe (lamb, sheep) . we might are suppose to add U to another word to make a new word, and he GAVE us a U, you he might have given us YOU to add to a word, I don't know yet. My name is _________
notes to myself so i don't forget this is not going to mean anything at all to anyone but me... it is just notes so I don't forget. I have to go to sleep and I'll come back and work on this more tonight drumslick gave deli 8's H gold ankle MNI T A B Son mariann, buttons
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Post by amazingates on Dec 18, 2019 23:25:16 GMT -8
making a few notes I just noticed and do not want to forget. this is not done, these are just words I notice that might mean something. They all have to be "checked" and most likely none are right. I'll work on this tomrorow, I'm tired figgure = f i Y g u r e ... look at it, that is a Y not another "g"... that srambles out to FIRE GUYthe word "that" before the words blue meannie, is NOT that, it is RHAT . the first letter is an R not a T blue meannie might be lube me annie, check on that. ( like oil me in the halloween card) or blue can be blew, like blew up. blew up the cop station? one who wiped out / wed pi(out) = wed out Rhat (rat) someone married a RAT?school children - coed = code
teritory is missing an R = T E R I T O R Y = Troy Rite, Troy Funeralthere is more(looks like Mo C/see glory) a cop = poca (short)/ capo (boss) {italian} a short code? a Boss Code? . spanish is CAPO = HOOD, COPA = Cup... hmmm hood cup... hood stein/stine. poca = little a cup cover is a LID... lid then was 5 fingers. wait a minute... a cover on a cup, means the cup is under the cover.... cup is undercover... stine was undercover... but which stine - paul, joe, or their sister?
or was stine a LID he was killed on the very same day the huge riots were started in chicago.
SDS developed from the youth branch of a socialist educational organization known as the League for Industrial Democracy (LID).
SDS developed from the youth branch of a socialist educational organization known as the League for Industrial Democracy (LID). LID's themselves descended from an older student organization, the Intercollegiate Socialist Society, founded in 1905 by Upton Sinclair, Walter Lippmann, Clarence Darrow, and Jack London. Early in 1960, to broaden the scope for recruitment beyond labor issues, the Student League for Industrial Democracy were reconstituted as SDS . They held their first meeting in 1960 on the University of Michigan campus at Ann Arbor, where Alan Haber was elected president. The SDS manifesto, known as the Port Huron Statement, was adopted at the organization's first convention in June 1962, based on an earlier draft by staff member Tom Hayden. . than = instead of A Cid . C aid, C ida . A ID C ... cia/D... a cid = a coed... a code/ that is a check with Coed for school children accid = alternative current coed/code - he Zodiac changed the way to work on the 340 with the BUS . an alternative code.
ok I see it, it is on the 340, the A . B . the time, the sun light, the Car Bat, the cloudy day cut off, the close and open. It's on the 340
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 0:14:56 GMT -8
I have to tear this all up tomorrow and see what is going on here.
this is getting to be some really crazy stuff in this one...
making some notes to date two date ten = tin
money on my head. cash
wouldnt = wood knot...
bus bomb was a dud... that says DOD = what is a dod? dept of defence?
dod = federal department responsible for safeguarding national security of the United States
swamped . out by the rain/reign
oh I get this now, swamped, washed out. by the rain. the writing is washed out, it is invisible.
I am mildly cerous... cerous is source ... THE SOURCE... it might be cloud/overcast overhead... mildly - gently, bearly,
CEROUS =Cerium(III) oxalate is used as an antiemetic. It has been identified as part of the invisible ink that was used by Stasi operatives during the Cold War.
he is using invisible ink - but that means his letters are coded. He is writing something we can't see. it's coded. surely he didn't use REAL invisible ink?, if he did it's probably all messed up by now ( this probably has something to do with the dripping pen... just WASHED it, can't do a thing with it, can't see the ink, like writing with water)
OH, B is the cloudy day. ok I see it on the 340 . MPTH. let me go see if someone was on MP with coins on their hat uniform, oh yes a TIN MAN = 10 . he's the TIN MAN
money on my head, coins on my head... who has coins on their head? what about a hat with coins on it, maybe a pork PIE/PI hat
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 0:40:39 GMT -8
okay I totally see it now... start your car battery... follow that line with the string of bombs. that is your letters. put that over the 340 and follow that line. but if there is REAL invisible letters on there, we can't do that. I can just see the cops paying attention to me LMAO... telling them there is invisible ink on there to follow that line LOL
let me go put try to pick out the letter that would be under that line.
you start on the 7th column over from the left , from HER... HER> PL up mark , that is the 7th column. look on the diagram in the letter, and see the A where the bus goes in, go down 8th row to the solid black box, that is your battery that is marked on the letter diagram. start there. it is right under that sideways H with the dot on it. those are the photo electric switches.
so you have the battery (solid black square, then your negative (0) then your positive (+)... then your timer. open square.... then you follow the diagram, up from the timer, C D , then you hit the solid black cirle, that is your stop, then you take off up and left to the "I" and then you have your half filled square(filled left top to left bottom) stay on the open side of that, then you have U, then go to the half filled square and stay on the open side of that, to P, then across your string of bombs P backwards K I then stay up on top of the half filled circle stay on top where it is open, L T G then you hit the half filled circle with the OPEN end on bottom, turn down there, you have backwards F H K backwards K D L L .... here you see the sun(look on the diagram see the word sun beam... with the line through it... you also have your A B there ... like is on the diagram by the sun(the circle with the dot)... after the L you have the half circle with the open side on the right come through that open part, look at your diagram again, stay on the outside of the next B ( I get a bit lost here, but I THINK you go) through the Y, like on the diagram going through the Y on "day" on the diagram, and you see by the B by the Y on the diagram the line on the 340, the middle of the 340 where the DASH mark is on the right side of the Y, which is row 10, you go through that Y. you come on down from Y, then to M, then throuth the + back wards C C then E(that is the etc that is on the letter diagram, then you go K, and you are going to run into the sun(circle with a dot) and don't hit it, stay just to the top of it and hit the half filled circle that tells you to now turn UP. look at your diagram, see where the B is on it, then you are going to turn up.. but see your B on the 340 .. see that weird mark like a sideways H with a dot on it you never cross into that area, there are several of those on the 340, and those are some kind of reference points so where that one is on top of the B is where on the diagram is the where the long skinny "hallway" shape blank space it... that has a backwards F and then stops at the filled in square. it is just reference points I think that match the diagram in the letter. ... so you hit the B, then you go left and up, and stay on that open side of the half filled box. to the left of that box you see the half filled circle with the open side on the top, to it is telling you to go UP, N S (the next looks like a backwards L but it isn't, it's a different kind of code reference, I'll explain that code later) next is a slanted line, the U then + then J.. you don't see an A but he tells us that A + B are the photo electric switches... but you do know you are on the A line because that is where you started out on that line with the car battery. and you also see the sideways H with the dot right above the battery so you know to stay under that. that is another reference marker ( the photo electric switch) . its also something else I'll explain later, it is a H you spin but has nothing to do with this message. so you turn right at the J, so you are on the same line you started on with the car battery. the black solid box. so you go from J backward F and backwards J, then the black box.
now look at the route you just took on the 340, it is exactly like the one on the letter diagram, and you hit all the places on the 340 it was showing on the letter, so you know it is figured out correctly.
now I'm going to take all the letters we "picked off" on the 340, where we DROVE THE BUS along the bomb route and blow them up, and see what they spell. I'm sure they are blown up, scattered all over, so we will have to scramble them and put them back together to spell something. I'm going to try that tonight. and hope I got the path right on the 340. if not, then I scooted over somewhere, but I think it should be right. i think I made the turns right the only place i might have made a mistake is coming up the last line going back to start... I might have supposed to have went over one more column to the left, but if it does not spell out right, then I'll just adjust over to the next column next to that other sun on the left of the 340. but I don't think it goes over to the left that far. so let me try to gather letters and unscramble them and see what it says. also we probably do not use the symbols at all. and we might not use the backwards letters either. those are probably for another message, just guessing. I'll do it both ways and see.
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Post by zodius on Dec 19, 2019 1:06:01 GMT -8
I'm having a hard time following lol
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 2:29:51 GMT -8
I'm having a hard time following lol ________________- I'm having a hard time myself haha I will explain it better, I'm tired as hell hahaha it is 3 am almost, and i'm seeing where I made a boo boo, but I fixed it now... and it looks like its says . "LIGHT UP KILL DUMB JONES" . I have to go through this again tomorrow. I'll try to fix it more right now, but I'm tired, I got a bit over on the wrong line just a bit, but have it fixed now. I'm pretty dang sure is says light up kill dumb jones... but those letters might work on to say some other words too. it could say anything using those letters. like I said I am really tired. I'll fix this tomorrow and explain it a lot better. mostly I was just going through it so i could figure it out myself, but I'll explain it all and go through it with you tomorrow. get on here with me and i'll go through it step by step and you can follow along on the 340 and I'll show you exactly tomorrow I'll get a clean 340 and mark it out on the 340 and take a photo and upload it on here so you can see where it is going. ok I went up to the last post with what to do and fixed the part where i think I got off coming down from the backwards Y to the + C C E to the sun(circle with dot) . I might have that right there not right but it works but I'll have to try adding in that K by the B and see if that works I don't think the K goes in there but it might
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 2:52:45 GMT -8
here are the letters, leave out the symbols and the backwards letters....
what you have for letters then on that 'bus route' it this
O I U P I L T G H K D L L M E B N S U J
So you then unscramble that.
here is what I get so far, but who knows what all it might say. what we have to do it try all things and then go back to the letter and find something to CHECK it with so we know we have what makes sense with the letter code.
here are the first two things i got, i'll try more tomorrow.
LIGHT UP KILL DUMB JONES
LIGHT UP BUS KILL DOJ MEN - (DEPT OF JUSTICE MEN)
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 3:07:53 GMT -8
OK that route IS right because on the diagram is says discon --ect so the bomb won't go off by accid.
and I did exactly that, when I got to the --- line on the 340, that is the same --- talked about on the letter and see how he wrote it . discon ---ect.
so you won't go off the right line/route, because i did at first because it is not an exact straight line, so he told us not to get off there. so he drew the line through the Y at the dash line on the 340. and told us to disconnect right there so we did that now. and he says ECT... and that is what is right there coming down that line +CE . only we have so we come through + C C E . and then he says so the bomb won't go off by accid... and that is exactly what happened it went off right there at the TCCE. and then the word accid... that is a cc(where not to go off) and ID... and ID is right there to, ME... ME is his ID haha. he's a jokester(actually he is an excellent coder. much better than I am, but I can get it if I fool with it long enough.
so now we have it right.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 3:10:44 GMT -8
gee, I'm never going to get to sleep lol. but now I'm looking at this line I have drawn on the 340, and I'm wondering if it is the outline of the layout of some building. I wonder if it looks like the dept of justice, just a weird guess and i'm going to look tomorrow to see.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 9:47:16 GMT -8
here are the letters, leave out the symbols and the backwards letters.... what you have for letters then on that 'bus route' it this O I U P I L T G H K D L L M E B N S U J So you then unscramble that. here is what I get so far, but who knows what all it might say. what we have to do it try all things and then go back to the letter and find something to CHECK it with so we know we have what makes sense with the letter code. here are the first two things i got, i'll try more tomorrow. LIGHT UP KILL DUMB JONES LIGHT UP BUS KILL DOJ MEN - (DEPT OF JUSTICE MEN)_________________ I have to go through the whole letter today and do ALL of the words, but being the line in the letter where it says "my bus bomb was a dud" . that is NOT DUD... that is actually written with an "O" and says DOD , which could very well be Dept of Defence . and if that is correct, then that would go along with DOJ (dept of Justice) that is one of the possibilities that works above in the string of letter we got out of the bus diagram I can't tell yet if this is the correct solution. it definitely works but somewhere there has to be a check to be sure which solution is correct. We can't just pick the ones we want to pick. He it so detailed and meticulous, he will have CHECKS for everything he does, he is not going to leave it up for random guessing.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 9:51:19 GMT -8
First thing I'm going to do it go through all the instruction part of the diagram, and try to make it much more clear, so it is easier to follow what I did. I know it is confusing, so I'll try to break it down more so it is easy to see what he told us to do, and how we can check to be certain it is right. (to get the right letters ) I'll work on that right now, and it is going to take me awhile to really break the explanation down.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 10:58:40 GMT -8
ok I have something wrong on my path. here is the path I took, but going over this again, something is not right. here is what I had done, according to my explantion above. I'll go over what I did, but I got off the path somewhere coming around after the TCE(ECT). This would not be so hard if I had the correct SIZE of the 340 and this bus diagram to just overlay it. but I don't have that so, I'm just "following what it SAYS to do".... here is what I did... I thought it was correct, but now I think part of the route is off I really need help from someone who knows how to draw this stuff out and RESIZE it all. I'm not good at that at all. I can decode this stuff all day, but I can't resize these things correctly and I certainly can't lay it out here right here is what I DID.... but now I have to redo it, because I think I got the line off. I think I was suppose to keep going up/left from the N (column 4, row 14) into the triangle, or farther. I'll get it fixed.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 11:05:05 GMT -8
Now let me explain in detail how I did this, so you can understand WHAT TO DO... then we can REWORK it and make sure I am on the right path after I get to that "N". so let me start from the beginning again, now that you can see what I am doing, and I'll you can follow along and help me figure out where the line goes... again, if the 340 and the diagram were resized to the original sizes, we would not have to do it this way, we would just overlay the diagram on top of the 340 and match up the lines and letters (that are written out on the diagram), with the letters on the 340. ok look at your diagram, drawing he did.... see where he wrote. "sun light in early morning" and he drew the sun right under the word "light". and then he draws and arrow downward pointing to that "up and down " "rectangular" box that the "A" in the little square box. That is going to be your starting point. " A" and "B: are your "photo electric swiches(spelled wrong and means something, not sure what yet)... OH NO. I WROTE IT ALL OUT AND IT ALL POOFED GRRRRRR . sheesh I have to start over ugh Ok, I know how the works. I know how to decode all this stuff, but I can't LAY it out here in the right size, and I'm having a hell of a time trying to explain this. I'll try again. here is the diagram drawing and the 340 "kind of" next to each other, but it needs to be SIZED correctly to line this stuff up in an "overlay". I don't know how to do that... so I'm having to try to explain all this by "typing it all out", and it is not working so well. I know exactly what to do, but I can't get this on here right to explain it. Is there anyone who will RESIZE this stuff. I also have the halloween card all figured out if someone will help me resize all this stuff... ok let's look at the diagram and the 340 side by side
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 12:41:02 GMT -8
okay let me try to explain this all one more time. it is not just a matter of doing it, I need to show you all the CHECKS so you can know it is correct. Zodiac never gives you stuff to just randomly pick from, everything he does has a CHECK to tell you if it is right or if you have made a mistake. This diagram and 340 has a ton of CHECKS in place and if I explain this you can see every single CHECK along the BUS ROUTE, so you KNOW you have it RIGHT(you know you are picking the RIGHT letters; picking the off as they come bouncing out of the BUS. yes, the letters are the kiddies you are gong to "pick off") you are driving your bus on the 340...
so let me try this again... I'm going to make several posts to do this so I don't get it all on here and it all poofs again.
Now let me explain in detail how I did this, so you can understand WHAT TO DO... then we can REWORK it and make sure I am on the right path after I get to that "N". ( I think there is a mistake there, but I'll just do it all this way for now to show you how it works, then I'll go through and correct anything that seems not to be right)
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so let me start from the beginning again, now that you can see what I am doing, and you can follow along and help me figure out where the line goes... again, if the 340 and the diagram were resized to the original sizes, we would not have to do it this way, we would just overlay the diagram on top of the 340 and match up the lines and letters (that are written out on the diagram), with the letters on the 340.
_____ ok look at your diagram, drawing he did.... see where he wrote. "sun light in early morning" and he drew the sun right under the word "light". and then he draws and arrow downward pointing to that "up and down " "rectangular" box sitting on top of that the "A" in the little square box. That is going to be your starting point.
" A" and "B: are your "photo electric swiches(spelled wrong and means something, not sure what yet)...
I have numbered the columns and rows on the 340 so we can use the numbers for reference as to which letters we are talking about. example . (1, 1) is column 1, row 1 = H) . or column 7, row 8 = black square box ... or column 17, row 10 = ___ which is a disconnect ( will explain that later)
always look at your diagram drawing and compare it to where you are on the 340... it will always line up with the clues in the diagram and match the answers on the 340.. if they are not matching, you have it wrong and ran the bus off the route(line)... notice that the route I took on the 340(green line) is "basically" the same as shown on the diagram drawing. if this were a correctly sized diagram and 340, you just overlay them and line up the clues to match the locations on the 340, but I don't know how to resize this, so I'm going to type out what to do.
how do we know this is the right starting point
you have the sun with the arrow going down... it points to a long and narrow, up and down rectangular area on the diagram drawing, so you find that on the 340. you see that he tells us that A & B are photo electric swiches(sp)... and we are looking for a car battery and a timer as drawn on the diagram drawing. so we go over to the 340... keep in mind the route on the diagram drawing. so I find the timer, a white box, and we need the swiches... (the sideways H with dots)there is one at (7, 7) one at (6, 15)... at (6, 15) you have a B under that one, and at the (7,7) we have one and under that is a square black box, we do not want to drive through that photo electric switch or it will set off the bomb and be wrong... so we start below it at the black box, (7, 8)... that is your bus, that is where you START the bus. to the left of the black box (7, 7) is the O (8,) + (9,8)... that is your battery. 0 = negative... + = postive. to the right of that is the white box (10,8).. that is your timer. compare all of this on the 340 to the diagram drawing, and you see we are in the right place to start.
okay I just noticed a problem here. ugh.... the photo electric SWICHES /switches but spelled wrong so you NOTICES something is missing (the T in switches) so, i have to figure this out BEFORE we start or something is going to be wrong.
so let me go back and figure out the SWICHES first grrrr
well wait, I'm going to finish showing you how it works even without the switches all worked out, so at least you can see how this is suppose to work...if I don't you all these check points you will be trying to put this all over the 340 and just be wasting a ton of time, so I'll go ahead and show you the check points, and then I'll come back and redo it with the switches.
keep in mind this is going to have a boo boo in it that I will have to go back and fix, but at least you will see HOW to work this AND check it
okay you have the starting point - the black box, and the timer the white box...
now look at the diagram drawing, keep referring to it and matching it to the 340.... so you start at the solid black box, it is followed by the car bat(battery) then the 0(8,8) +(9,8).. and the white box(the timer) (10,8)... look at the diagram... you see that when you leave the TIMER you go up... so go to the 340 and go UP... to backwards C (10,7), backwards D(10,6) ... the next space is a solid black circle... that means stop... solid black is STOP. so now you have to go another way, so look at the diagram, you are going to go up and left at an angle.l . so from the backwards D, go up to the (I)(9,5) keep going to the box that is half filled, and stay on the OPEN(white) side of it. , then on up to the U(7,3)... then the next one is a solid black box, so STOP, you have to change direction. so look at the diagram again, and see where the line(route) is going, up and right, so look on the 340 and you see that up and right it the half filled sqaure box, stay on the open(white) side of that, go on up to P(9,1)... now you know you have to turn, so look at the diagram, you are going to turn to the right. just like on the diagram... so now you are in the string of bombs so you go though backwards K, I round circle half filled, stay on the top of it on the white (open) area, keep going... T G then the half filled circle (16, 1), open on the bottom.
now you are going to go down from the (16, 1) it is open on the bottom, we could go on past, but look at the diagram again. where the line on the diagram is going, coming down the right side, it has the sun on the inside of the line... on the 340 you will have to put the sun on the inside as well (the circle with the dot {15,9}). you also look at the diagram and see that B is also inside the line, but the Y (in the word day) has the line through it, so you know you are going to be on the outside of the B but through the Y... so go to the 340 and find the BY(B=16, 10) Y = (17, 10)... you see in the diagram that says discon ---(part of the word disconnect) so you find the discon --- on the 340, it is just to the right of Y... it is the DASH mark on the 340 (17, 10). the reason why there is a disconnect is because if you kept going down that like until you hit the STOP(the solid black triangle{16, 13}) you would be off track, and he does not want you to go that far, so he had you disconnect... so where are you suppose to go? ok look back at the diagram...you come through the Yin the word day, so you go to the 340, come through the Y (16, 10).. look at the diagram. the rest of the word discon---ect .... e c t... is inside the the line on the diagram, so you look on your 340 and find the ect so if you look at the backwards Y(17, 10) and come at a downward left angle(just like the diagram is showing; if you look down that line on the 340 you see M "t" backwards c, another backwards c and then (10, 15) you see the "e". now look on the diagram and see where is says " go off by accid.... you see the cc on the 340, it is the two backwards c's right there in your line... you see the periods right there also. so we don't want to get into the 2 dots. and we are going through the two cc's(backwards ones)... so we go down that line and catch the "e"... that was part of the etc, and also it is part of the accID. ID... because the letters are M, tce(etc, ) E is a letter you will use and ME is ME, and that is his ID, ME. (his humor lol)... so now you are on E(10,15) on the 340. and everythings to be matching up with what is on the diagram, it is all also on the 340. and your route on the 340 is following along just like the route on the diagram. same shape of the route, with the right letters inside and the right letters outside. so we can be "pretty sure" we have this right...
ok we are on the E(10, 15)... we look at the diagram again and see that we are somehow going to go through the B(7, 16).. we also notice on the diagram the route line is still going at a slant from down and to the left, so we continue and go to the "O"(9, 16) so to go from O and end up through B, we have to turn left, and we can't continue down or we hit the sun(circle with a dot {7, 17}), so we go left to the B(6, 16) (something looks a bit off here but we can rework this later, I just want you to get the idea here)on top of the B we see another "switch" sideways H with a dot) that is another photo switch. I went up to the half filled box, and stayed on the open (white) side of it, but I'm not positive this is right. I'm thinking I should have went over left more to the half filled circle with the ope (white) on the left of the circle (4, 16) but even if we do go that way, we end up with the same solution letters.... but look at the diagram again, and the route line comes a little left of B before it goes up, and I did not do that on the 340, so I am thinking I needed to go left more. to the (4, 16) half filled circle. next to that is a "dot" (.)(3, 16) , you don't want to go on the "dot" because he already told us tht accid.(dot) is an accident and you go off track so we can't go any farther left than the half circle (4, 16).... something is wrong here. we have to go to the N(4, 14) like I did originally. we can't go into that half circle cuz it is black on that side and that says we have to stop, so we have to come up through the open side of the half filled box(5, 15), and then to the N(4, 16)... then we continue UP like on the diagram... which takes us through S, backwards L(actually that is not an L, its an instruction for a different type code for later), the / mark, U, +, J.... when we get to the J we have to go right because if we look at the diagram again, the line goes over to the where we started at the original solid black box. so we turn right and go through the backwards F(5, 8) and the backwards J(6, 8). so now our route on the 340(my green line) has the same shape as the diagram route(almost, it is a bit off, I'm not sure if it is wrong, or if it is because he had to write all in there etc, or ... do the SWITCHES tell us to do something I did not do? that is possible if so, then I have to go through the whole letter first, figure out what to do with those Swiches/switches so we can be sure the route is right. it is possible we were suppose to SWITCH, change move, trade, shift, rearrange etc, "something" before we started.
what you can see though, that there are a LOT of CHECKS all the way through to make sure we are on the right letters with our route line. Now if we could just overlay the diagram on top of the 340, it would be much easier to line up on all the Check points.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 13:30:44 GMT -8
Swiches = swiches with missing T ...
I know it is the sideways H with the dot on the side... but lets figure out what to do with hit....
A & B are photo electric...
a photo is a mirror image. but it might be backwards and have to be switched around, so you have to turn it around? or exchange it, or switch places, etc
switch = convert, divert, replace, shift, swap, turn, veer, interchange, rearrange, sidetrack, trade, substitute, exchange, reversal, transformatin, change of direction....
so now to figure out which we do... why does he not put the "T" in there? I'm missing something.
oh... A & B are switches, they can be turned around, exchanged, sidetracked(left out), reversed etc.. so what do we do with them. If "T" is left out maybe that is a clue to leave out the A and B... oh I see it... on the diagram drawing, the line is going around(side tracking, A and B. ... which maks (left the E out of that word) B, LINE IS GOING AROUND IT, THEN IT GOES AROUND THE A IN DAY. between the A and Y in day.
so you sidetrack the A & B.. your track ( route ) goes to the side of A & B... and your A & B are your photo electric switches, the sideways H with the dot. so you side track the switch... or you blow up... you are off track... so you have to make sure you side track them. so you go around it
okay this changes everything ... let me think
THIS IS HARDER THAT HELL. .... I know I can do it, but this is so advanced that you have to start at the beginning and follow every detail or it does not work right. whoever the heck wrote this stuff is the best coder I have ever seen. this is almost as bad as decoding the old hebrew torah. Gee, let me go think about this.
we have to be dealing with a linguist and an exceptional coder. a lot of his stuff is not THAT hard, but man some of these are almost impossible to do unless you really really really work at them and make certain you have every coded detail in place.
I feel like I just looked at a message from an alien spaceship and I'm suddenly suppose to understand this crap. hahah.
This is how these codes are, you can do them wrong and still come out with correct surface solutions, but then there are other messages deeper. I can see there is a deeper level in this one, and I want THAT message. All this other stuff is just going to be surface solutions.
let me go work on this. ugh
Zodiac, i wish you would read this... I guess you know you are driving me bonkers trying to figure this stuff out, while you sit there and laugh your butt off. You need to help me hahaha... yes, I believe this is a group of people who know this code and some of them are still alive and well. and I'm over here trying to figure this out by myself. I know this code very well, but I'm not as good at it as they are. They want us to Guess. If someone does not come help me, I Guess I will just Guess. Guess, Guess, Guess, isn't that what this is all about, ONE big 13, one big game of the Guesses. Now get your dang spyglasses on and get over here and help me see what this is saying. before I burn your ass ugh or better yet, how 'bout I just decode the last line of the 340 and start at the bottom and "flip that swich" . That ought to be in the glory... hows that for Deep Real Estate... missing the T, maybe I ought to fly you to the sun, somewhere over the rainbow where everyone has keys... how is that for beetle juice. so no one knows what it's like to be the Ten man haha . You do LOL. remember that little song . "and they swam and they swam right over the dam" ... yah grandma taught me well those little songs. Now stop making me search you out of that monastery and lets dive into this mess or we could always revisit dylan And take a long my pet mule or your cat, you think Its a drag, take five honey, and then we can go out and spend all the blue money. If it is not snowing by then. but if so, we can just build a big snowman. That king is always happy.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 14:37:01 GMT -8
okay back to the code, I'm going to have to start at the beginning of the letter and decode the letter FIRST before working on the diagram drawing because there is something up there in the actual letter part that is explaining something that we are missing to be able to get to the lower levels of this bomb message. It's nice to figure out the surface levels but those are never the REAL message. They usually turn out to be from the Jokester that Z is... what we want is the deep levels that really tell us something important.
Most of the time people will find the surface levels and think they have the REAL message and they stop and think it is solved, but it isn't. So I have missed something up there in the actual letter(because I did not go through it like I should have; I know better, but tried to short-cut and that is a no-no) and now have to go back and do that FIRST. I have to work that letter step by step, every word.
ok I'll start doing that in the next post. ...
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 14:50:42 GMT -8
well lets hope we can do this without cracking the AEN --K-M--NAM... but I'm pretty sure I know what that is already so I'll skip doing that.
I am mildly cerous as to how much money you have on my head now. I hope you do not think that I was the one who wiped out that blue meannie with a bomb at the cop station.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 14:56:13 GMT -8
Even though I talked about killing school children with one. It just wouldnt doo to move in on someone elses teritory.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 17:28:16 GMT -8
okay I went back through the instructions for the route line, on a post a few posts back and finished the instructions for the route line. Man this stuff is just complicated to explain. it is a lot easier to do that it is to explain it. but hopefully, now it is easier to see what was done and why... the why is just as important as how. all the check points = the WHY we do things.
We always have to follow the instructions and find all the CHECKS, if we don't it ends up wrong, even if it does not look wrong and it makes something that seems right. if the checks are not there, it can still be wrong and we have the wrong solution and do not get the REAL message. we can't just make up stuff, or we will never figure out what he is saying and get the real story.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 17:29:44 GMT -8
Because I am familiar with this code and how it works, I don't realize sometimes that I am not explaining as simple as I think I am. so if you don't understand something I did etc or why, please ask me and I'll try to answer until you understand what I'm saying
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