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Post by amazingates on Dec 17, 2019 12:07:20 GMT -8
Tearing Apart The "Little List" Letter 6/26/70
It is going to take quite a while to tear this apart and explain this letter. It's a long one. I'll go through it and pick out what I see right off and then have to come back through it several times to make sure we are not missing anything. There is enough info in this one, it might point to Zodiac. I'm thinking there might be into in here that is going to give us some clues. UPDATE 12/18/2019 - I'm still trying just to get this out here so I can work on it and explain it, but I can already see that we are going to get a tremendous amout of info out of this letter, with names in it. I think they might be names that are connected to him; I'm not positive of that, but that is what it is looking like to me. If so, we can take those names and see who they are, and possibly figure out his name as well. I'm thinking he is giving these names to let them know it is him. Long story, but I think he had to go underground and no one knew where he was. I could be wrong, and only time will tell as I get through this and figure out exactly what he is saying. I also see a lot of instructions going on in here and it is most likely(I'm about positive) it is instructions and directions on how and where to go to pick out the letters on the 340, to give us different messages. I can see the instructions all through this. So this communication letter is going to tell us two things... clues to who he is, and instructions to get messages out of the 340. He knows that everyone is "missing" the messages in the 340, and he wants to give us more instructions so they "will never be missed". First let's look at the evelope. Obvisouly Calif. is spelled CLAIF. Zodiac did not make a mistake, that means something.
ClaiF - I Calf, little cow, little steer, little moo moo, little holstein, little jersey, little guernsey, little heffer, flaic - flake, cia fl, C- see I laf... C I alf? I lac(lack - take out some letters?) Clif, Laci, fail, flac, flic, ail, cail=cell, fell, fil There is no way to tell what this is unless we have something to compare it too, or know someone's name or nickname.
UPDATE: I looked at this some more and now I am thinking this is about THE GOLDEN CALF ...CLAIF = I CALF. and california is definitely THE GOLDEN STATE. so the Calf in Calif would be the golden calf
I started a thread for the Golden Calf here theslaughterhouse.freeforums.net/thread/438/golden-calf-dietyBeing we also have the word Diety in the 340, it could make sense. there are also more cow, steer, moo moo etc clues. So this is a "thought" at this point, but I think there really might be something to this. also Blaine, wrote a book called the Golden Calf Killings, and said gyke was killing and leaving a golden calf. did he? who knows (I'm not a pro-gyke person but this is interesting) Maybe Blaine is the "letter writer"? I don't think so, but I never hide clues about anything, I say what I see then everyone else, including myself can take it or leave it. I personally think Zodiac is a group, and one of the people is Troy Houghton. But I do think there are others so who knows. read about Blaine and his thoughts, including his book and his having a huge Golden Calf at his house and going to take it to Nixon to bow to. Goldcatcher had also used several other aliases, including Blaine Blaine. Using the pseudonym Zakatarious, Blaine authored the book The Secret of the Golden Calf – Towards the Foundation of a Polytheistic Psychology and the Reawakening of the Polytheistic Faith, published in 1974 in Berkeley, California. Recently, Blaine claimed that this book served as a key element in a series of murders he called “The Golden Calf Killings.” Blaine claimed that his former friend and associate Richard Gaikowski had committed several murders and then left the image of a golden calf at the crime scenes as a message to Blaine. According to Blaine’s account, Gaikowski also confessed that he was the Zodiac killer and invited Blaine to join him in ongoing acts of shocking violence. Blaine claimed that Gaikowski used an umbrella to stab a young boy and also stabbed another victim inside a crowded supermarket. Blaine also claimed that he had seen Gaikowski kill a cabdriver named Leonard Carl Smith. info herezodiackillerfacts.com/main/a-blaine-by-any-other-name/
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Post by amazingates on Dec 17, 2019 12:08:39 GMT -8
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Post by amazingates on Dec 17, 2019 12:13:41 GMT -8
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Post by amazingates on Dec 17, 2019 13:19:20 GMT -8
I'll go through and do some basics and then come back and see what CHECKS
This is the Zodiac speaking
Being that you will not wear some nice (z symbol) buttons
how about wearing some nasty (z symbol) buttons.
Or any type of (z symbol) buttons that you can think up
This is Zodiac speaking
speaking - speaking = not writing peas king, sign peak, sing peak . not writing, not righting, lefting... has left
Being - human, alive, are/ R, here,
that - that, T hat. TH at
you - you , U, ewe, sheep, lamb,
will - Name Will/William/Bill, hope for, testament, wheel?,
not wear - take off, unclad, not ware, not where, wear - put on, rub, kill, ... not where is gone, left.
some - not all, take out some letters
nice - in ice, in cold, in snow, in the word .....i c e c=see I = eye . E = ? E
Z symbol - cross, T, Circle around T, T around
buttons - butt ons, butts on. but tons, butt son, on butts, butt might be buttes on Butts is BUTTES
How - In what way, manner, what way/weigh,
about - around, a fight, a round, circle
wearing have on, on, over, on top, rubbing, killing,
some - not all, take some out, take out some letters
Z symbol cross, T, Circle around T, T around
nice in ice, in cold, in snow, in the word .....i c e c=see I = eye . E = ? E
buttons - butt ons, butts on. but tons(weight), butt son, on butts, butt might be buttes on Butts is BUTTES, T son tub, T on stub
or - or, either, ore, gold, silver, other metals, oar, paddle,
any - undetermined, ( this probably is not right but while I'm thinking of it, if we take out the TE we have undermined, I'll have to check that with whatever else we get)
type - to type, kind,
of - belonging to, coming from,
Z symbol - cross, T, Circle around T, T around
buttons -butt ons, butts on. but tons(weight), butt son, on butts, T son tub, T on stub
you - you , U, ewe, sheep, lamb,
can - able, may, container, jar, cylinder, toilet, john,
think - ponder, wonder, way it out, weigh it out,
up. - above, over, high, higher, raise, sky, air,
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Post by amazingates on Dec 17, 2019 13:41:08 GMT -8
okay I have not done enough of this to KNOW yet, but this is looking like instructions to the 340, and going to do something with it and possibly a will/wheel, but it is also talking about the 13 eyes and the 13 holes. He's telling us how to do it so "they won't be missed"
But remember, nothing on the 340 is going to work if we don't resize everything to the original sizes.
Can someone resize all the ciphers, otherwise this is not going to line up
I can decode this stuff all day long, but if we don't have things lined up right, we will get all kinds of gobbly-gook on the parts with instructions for moving around the 340 and the other ciphers
Let me keep working on this more.
If you do not wear any type of (z symbol) buttons I shall (on top of ever thing else) torture all 13 of my slaves that I have wateing for me in Paradice.
If - maybe, May B,
you - you , U, ewe, sheep, lamb,
do - do, doo, due, dew
not wear - take off, unclad, not ware, not where, wear - put on, rub, kill, ... not where is gone, left. not also is - not, naught, knot, isn't,
any - undetermined, ( this probably is not right but while I'm thinking of it, if we take out the TE we have undermined, I'll have to check that with whatever else we get) to undermine is to dig under it until it falls down lower, or you remove it. also to undermine is to do something to make what is there for not to work, take it out.
type - to type, kind, the TYPE, the typed letter itself
of - belonging to, coming from,
Z symbol - Cross, T
buttons - butt ons, butts on. but tons, butt son, on butts, butt might be buttes on Butts is BUTTES
I - I, eye
shall = MUST,, you have to. legal term, no choice but to do it. , halls, walkways, paths,
(on top of every thing else) - I don't know if we break this apart or it is saying something is on top of every thing else? in this letter what is on top of every thing else is "this is the Zodiac Speaking) but I don't think that is right either. what is Every thing else. on top is a summit, peak, sky, atmosphere, the universe, the Zodiac. the head person. If this person believes in God it would be God? President? Ruler? outer space? overlay something(instruction)
torture - cut, stab, kick, hit, cause pain, remove parts, poke your eyes out, burn, all - all, awl, (all 13) remove all 13
13 - holes, eyes, M,
of - belonging to, coming from,
my - belonging to me,
slaves -slaves less some letters... = Valess = Val ( as is underlined on the AVERY envelope) what are the slaves? val, vowels..wolves(oh wow, I'll have to check this out, I'll check it out and if this works, then I'll explain it)
that - that, t hat, th at,
I - I, eye, aye, yes
have - possess, own,
wateing - waiting, weighting, weat gin = wheat gin (grain mill? - silo)
for - for, fore, four, 4, before,
me - myself, my name,
in - in, N, 14, en, inside,
Paradice - Para dice, paradice, inside the word paradice ( dice, ice, para, ad, could be any combination of letters inside the word paradise) or... what is in Paradise? The town of Paradise is in BUTTE county, CA. there are a ton of paradise/paradice locations. or in the Bible, whats in paradise? the 3rd heaven, the Garden of Eden. The zodiac is in the heavens, (my note- how long have they had the 13 houses, I don't think they had chiron then? probably nothing to do with that)
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Post by amazingates on Dec 17, 2019 19:51:04 GMT -8
Some i shall tie over ant hills and watch them scream + twich and squirm. Others shall have pine splinters driven under their nails + then burned. Others shall be placed in cages + fed salt beef untill they are gorged then I shall listen to their pleass for water and I shall laugh at them. Others will hang by their thumbs + burn in the sun then I will run them down(?) with deep heat to warm them up.
Some - not all, take out some letters
I - I, eye
shall - MUST, you have to. legal term, no choice but to do it. , halls, walkways, paths,
tie - knot , bind, necktie,
over - above, over, on top, high,
ant - ant, aunt,
hills - hills, shill, mountains, peaks,
and - also, add, ad, too, connect,
watch - stare, watch, eye, time, your watch(your turn) tick-tock, shift, time piece, clock,
them - others, not us, Not US,
scream + twich - screamtwich, yelltwich, witch, creams, witch creams (witch hazel) creams =balms, which, witchell(something i know about), cream switch, switch cream, cam switcher, ?
and - also, add, ad, too, connect, squirm. - writh, wiggle, shake, antsy, act nervous, wriggle,
Others - more, others, them, not them, not us,
shall - MUST,, you have to. legal term, no choice but to do it. , halls, walkways, paths,
have - possess, own, got,
pine - pine, yearn, want, tree, conifer, long for,
splinters - splinters, shatter(break apart), pieces, broken off pieces, cells, sticks, thorns, slivers(silvers)
driven - drove, driven, steered, operated, blown (driven snow), pushed away, herded, pounded, nailed,
under - below, under, down, deep, underground, sick, undercover,
their - there, their, they're, not mine, not ours, co-owned
nails + then - nailsthen, lineshant, ? , nails then, ?
burned. - charred, seared, fired, cheated, stole, torched, branded,
Others - more, others, them, not them, not us,
shall - MUST, you have to. legal term, no choice but to do it. , halls, walkways, paths,
be - be, bee, alive, living, being, B, is,
placed - placed, set, put, laid, put in, inserted, came in, won,
in - in, N, inside, within, inn,
cages + fed - cagesfed, could be so many things, have to look for a check
salt salt, sailor, season, spice, flavor, brine, preservative, cure, nitrate
beef - beef, cow, steer, calf, meat, make stronger,
untill - before, unplowed, not till, ?
they - not us, them, others,
are - are, R, a re, ray,
gorged - gorged, stuffed, full, dogger,
then - then, after, later, another time,
I - I, eye,
shall - MUST, you have to. legal term, no choice but to do it. , halls, walkways, paths,
listen - listen, hear, pay attention, list en/ list in
to - to, too, two, tward, also, add, ad,
their - there, their, they're, not mine, not ours, co-owned
pleass - speals? seal ps, sale ps, sale sp, pale SS
for - for, fore, four, 4, before,
water water, sea, C, river, lake, liquid, deep, ocean, pond, make wet, give drink, drink, sprinkle, spray, quinch, might be waiter?
and - also, add, ad, too, connect,
I - I, eye
shall - MUST, you have to. legal term, no choice but to do it. , halls, walkways, paths,
laugh - laugh, smirk, smile, haha, giggle, roar, snicker, grin, ho ho ho, chuckle
at - at, in, by, near, beside, on, within,
them. - others, not us, Not US,
Others - more, others, them, not them, not us,
will - Name Will/William/Bill, hope for, testament, wheel?
hang - hang, dangle, droop, flop, swing, bend, cover, attach, overhang, droop, be loose, be pendent, kill by rope, hoist, lynch, noose, scrag, string up, await, cling, hinge, be in limbo, conditional, determined by, pend
by - by, aside, past, away, through, in reach, close, near, handy, beyond, over, to one side
their - there, their, they're, not mine, not ours, co-owned
thumbs + burn - thumbsburn, digits + char, digits + sear, burn numbers, address char, address burn, apply to, plead, take aside burn, talk to burn, hitchhike char, ?
in - in, inside, within, inn, N, 14,
the - affecting next word,
sun - sun, son, sol, solar, boy, heir, offspring(off spring), junior,
then - then, after, later, another time,
I - I, eye
will - Name Will/William/Bill, hope for, testament, wheel?
rub - friction, rub, polish, kneading(scramble, mix up), smear, smoothing, swab, wipe, wear, swipe, shine, pat, drawback, bar, catch, hitch, hurdle, snag, trouble, stumbling block, predicament
them - others, not us, Not US
down(?) - downward, cascading, declining, depressed, downhill, falling, sinking, sliding, slipping, bottomward, under, underneath, to the bottom, sad, unhappy
with - accompanying, along, among, for, alongside, amidst, by, for, plus, add, upon, including
deep - deep, broad, wide, low, buried, far, rooted, below, underground, distant, immersed, sunk, submerged, beneath
heat - heat, cops, fever, hot weather, fieriness, heatwave, hot spell, excitement, violence, fury, rage, make hot,
to - to, two, too, also, add, plus,
warm - warm, balmy, sunny, close, hot, mild, pleasant, flushed, melting, glowing, snug, summery, thermal, toasty, tepid, friendly, kind, hearty, cheerful, happy, heartfelt, loving, sincre, pleasant, stormy, angry, keen, nutty, intense, fervid, gung-ho,
them - others, not us, Not US
up. - up, above, over, at the top, at the apex of, at the summit, skyward, upward, higher, uphill, done, expired, ended, terminated, run out, outdated, happening, live, pressing, current, timely, next, after, following, in order, elevate, boost, increase, raise, boast, ascend, awake, jump, rise
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Post by amazingates on Dec 17, 2019 23:30:27 GMT -8
Others I shall skin them alive + let them run around screaming. And all billiard players I shall have them play in a dark(word separted) ened dungan(spelled that way) all (? hard to read) with crooked cues + Twisted(capital) Shoes (capital). Yes I shall have great fun in flicting(space after in) the most delicious of Pain(might be pair) to my slaves(written much larger than other words)
Others - dross, balance, them, heel, leftovers, overplus, remnant, residue, surplus, odds and ends, bottom of barrel, alternative, rest, option, pick, preference, sub, back-up, recourse, selection, take it or leave it
I - I , eye, see,
shall -sh . all, be about to, intend, must, will, want to, be going to
skin - kins, outer covering, bark, coating, crust, jacket, husk, rind, case, casing, fell, film, hide, hull, outside, peel, shell, pelt, slough, remove outer covering, graze, pare, scrape, shave, trim, cast, bare, remove, shed, scale strip, cut off, pull off
them -th em(M)
alive+let - alivelet, al and vielet, val and telie, eilet, letie ? ... awake, conscious, live, around, existing, living, mortal, vital, working, operative, active, full of life, ready, rife, quick, sharp, spry, teeming
them - TH em(M)
run - jog, dash, race, move fast, rush, race, spurt, dart, bound, drop, fall, escape, flight, pace, lope, spring, trot, sprint, journey, outing, ride, trip, left, spin, travel course, sequence, round, series, string, chain, bearing, line, flow, path, period, spell, way, scurry, clear out, take off, tear out, make a break, opperate, drive, spring, scramble,
around - around, about, circle , everywhere, over, all over, any which way, in the vicinity, in this area, encompassing, close to a place,
screaming. - yelling, blare, holler, howl, roar, shout, squeal, wail, bawl, bellow, jar, shrill, cry out .... creamings.. cream, oil, jelly, paste, salve, best, choice, fat, pick, prize, top, skim, finest, prime, favorite
And - add, all, plus, dan, cast, count, sum, figure, total, count up, tally, tote, reckon, compute, continue, include, affix, tag, build up, beed up, hike up, hitch on, hook up with, run up, say further, step up, tack on
all - all, everyone, everything, total
billiard - bill, iard, raid, dair, pool (combine), game,
players - shooters, scramble players, splayer, real spy, member, opponent, rookie, pro, jock, champ, amateur, competitor, performer, artist, musician
I - I , eye, see,
shall - must, will, want to, intend, be obliged, brr about to, no choice have to do it.
have - to possess, accept, bear, carry, gain, get, hold, keep, own, pick up, retain, take, compass, land, occupy, seure, get hands on, lock up, sit on take in , need, permit, see, let, be up to, fall on, meet with, should, think about, know, leave, include, contain, encompass, fix, fool, dupe, outfox, undo, tamper with, outwit, outsmart, deliver, bear, beget, bring forth, give birth
them -establishment, authority, diehards, old guard, established order, others, not US, not I, the system, powers that be
play - play, aply (apply) hit, drama, comedy, musical, show, performance, opera, mask, smash, curtain-raiser, act, amuse, game, match, sport, caper, frolic, fun, jest, lark, prank, recreation, romp, latitude, range, action, give, leeway, margin, movement, space, operation, sweep, take part in, do, perform, present, enact, ham, impersonate, represent, read a part, take a role of, produce, gamble, risk,
in - put ina inside dark ened? diane n drake?
a - one, singlular, A
dark ened(word is separated) - add something in the space? ... blacken, char, dim, deepen, fog, gray, haze, murk, shade, shadow, cloud up, tone down, unlit,
dungan(spelled like that) - dungan, is this a last name for diane and drake? and gun (dungeon - prison, cell, vault, torture chamber)
all (?hard to read) - whole, complete, full, entire, greatest, gross, total, utter, outright, gross, perfect, each, everyone,
with - along, alongside, amidst, by, among, beside, for, near, plus upon, accompanying
crooked - bent, curved, twisted, winding, bowed, crippled, deformed, hooked, skewed, slanted, spiral, tilted, zigzag, agee, awry, cockeyed, indirect, not straight, out of shape, uneven, odd, evil, corrupt, lying, crafty, shady, dishonest, illegal, shifty, unlawful, angled, criminal, dishonorable, underhand,
cues +Twisted(capital) Shoes(Capital) - crooked cues are esses (S's) or cues = scue, scew, mix up... Twisted shoes are tornadoe shoes = storm trooper shoes. SS(crooked cues)SS storm trooper shoes. shoes = hoses. ?
Yes - yes, aye, eye - agreed, fine, good, true, yea, okay, by all means, even so, exactly, just so, of course, very well, yep, positively, beyond a doubt
I - I eye, aye
shall - must, will, want to, intend, be obliged, brr about to, no choice have to do it.
have - to possess, accept, bear, carry, gain, get, hold, keep, own, pick up, retain, take, compass, land, occupy, seure, get hands on, lock up, sit on take in , need, permit, see, let, be up to, fall on, meet with, should, think about, know, leave, include, contain, encompass, fix, fool, dupe, outfox, undo, tamper with, outwit, outsmart, deliver, bear, beget, bring forth, give birth
great - great, grand, big, large, immense, huge,
fun - enjoyment, party, cellabration, joy, blast, pastime, sport, ball, clowning, game, horseplay, merriment, mirth, picnic, riot, romp, treat, big time, jesting, joking, tom foolery
in flicting(space in word) - icing, frosting, cream, glaze, topping, trimming, sugar paste
the - affecting, comic, expressive, powerful, striking, sudden, tense, climatic
most - best, greatest, better, biggest, greater, higher, largest, max, uttermost, nearly all, nearly, almost, much, all but, close, approximately, in the majority, super, very, too, about,
delicious - ( that might check with icing?) rich, heavenly, spicy, sweet, tasty, yummy, pleasant, divine, good, nice, rare, fit for a king, tasteful, titillating, pleasing
of - about, as concerns, away from, based on, belonging to, like, made from, out of, in re, containing,
pain(might be pair) - pair, pear ? - pain - ache, burn, cramp, strain, catch, distress, hurt, pang, torture, problem, trouble, drag, bore, bother, pest, throb, ...pair - marry, combine, mate, balance, join, match, unite, wed, match up, pair off, pair up, put together... pear..- fruit,
to - 2, two, to, too, add, also
my - belonging to oneself, form of possessive, to possess it, wow, my-my
slaves (written a lot larger than the other words) - slaves with less letters = VAL ... victim, worker, help, toiler, workhorse, serf, servant
this sounds like a birthday party. I need to check the date and see if is matches anyone. I'll work on this more tomorrow
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Post by amazingates on Dec 18, 2019 9:40:55 GMT -8
13 - I do not believe these numbers are numbers of victims.
13 is representative of the 13 eyes and the 13 holes, in the Big 13 Card(13th victim card everyone calls it) 13 is a location and also the number of Zodiac. Not all of Zodiac, but this particular person or THE Zodiac, the group. (this person uses 13 to identify himself to people he is communicating with other than the police) SFPD = 0... again, 0 is not a number, it is a LOCATION - where to begin at, when given directions on your map.
on the map, the SFPD is your starting point.
Magnetic North - north of the sfpd(your starting point; reference on the map) Magnetic = arresting, captivating(holding captive), drawing North = toward the top of the pole of the earth, northward, cold, frozen
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Post by amazingates on Dec 18, 2019 9:57:34 GMT -8
This is where he is going to start describing people and tell us who they are. He's going to identify people. He's doing this to let "someone" know who he is.
As some day it may happen that a victom must be found. I've got a litte list, I've got a little list, of society offenders who might well be underground who would never be missed who would never be missed.
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Post by zodius on Dec 19, 2019 1:18:56 GMT -8
I bet that O has more significance than just being a zero. Why is it drawn like that? In the connect the dots theory the dots on the 340 cipher are used to help line up the 'dice' to the 66 map. Could this have something to do with that? Maybe one of the dots goes inside of the O? Or maybe a very specific spot on the map goes inside the O and whatever that location is is very important to the case? We also see the number 13 which is believed to be an important Zodiac number. There has to be something with the O and 13 that nobody has figured out yet, something big. I'm with you on that.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 3:25:34 GMT -8
I bet that O has more significance than just being a zero. Why is it drawn like that? In the connect the dots theory the dots on the 340 cipher are used to help line up the 'dice' to the 66 map. Could this have something to do with that? Maybe one of the dots goes inside of the O? Or maybe a very specific spot on the map goes inside the O and whatever that location is is very important to the case? We also see the number 13 which is believed to be an important Zodiac number. There has to be something with the O and 13 that nobody has figured out yet, something big. I'm with you on that.
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I believe the zero is where you put the MAGNETIC NORTH... magnetic is another word for ARRESTING. and that O always has sfpd... so I am thinking that is your magnetic north location. on the map where the SFPD is located on the real map. sometimes you see zodiac drawing it on the left of his name and sometimes on the right, so I think the sfpd on the map is where you line it up, and then he is showing us on his letters where he is at that times that matches to the messages he is giving up in the specific letters.
I also do not believe the numbers he uses for himself on there has anything to do with how many victims he has. the 13 matches the eyes on the halloween card and the 13 holes in what people call the 13th victim card. I don't believe that is a victim count at all. I believe all these numbers are to help ID himself to people he wants to be able to ID him. I don't think he is writing these letters for the benefit of the police. I think there are other coders out here who are watching for his communications and know exactly what he is saying, and he uses the number to ID himself to them.
and sometimes he uses the number to tell us what row to go to on the 340.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 19, 2019 3:29:00 GMT -8
I'll try to work more on this little list letter tomorrow too. I can't keep up with all this stuff haha, so I work on each one when I can. I really should be starting at the very first communication and going in order of them sent, but this gets so hectic and sometimes I see something right off and start in on one of them. once i get them all done, I think one tells stuff that helps figure out the other ones.
I'm really glad you are on here helping me brainstorm this stuff. everyone spots something someone else misses and if we get on these together we can probably figure them out
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