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Post by amazingates on Feb 4, 2020 12:35:07 GMT -8
Are Cab Drivers Fed Agents / Informants?
This thought just popped in my head.... a long time ago I had wondered if Paul Stine was undercover for the feds. I don't have any proof of that but I had wondered. I'm always brainstorming and 'wondering' things, and then I go see if I can find anything to back up my "wonderings". So, just now I'm thinking, okay there was Paul Stine and Ray Davis, both cabbies. There were also a few other cabbies killed; who knows who killed them...but....what if it were common knowledge, or even common "paranoia" that cabbies were "fed informants". It certainly would make sense for the feds to put their informants in cab driving jobs; who better to be able to go anywhere on any street, sit there and watch people and not be "out of place". They just look like they are sitting there waiting for a fare etc. Cops could not pull up and sit there. Unmarked cars with undercover agents could not pull up everywhere and sit there and watch; they would certainly have been noticed. So what better way to get an agent in front of a house to watch, than an agent/informant working as a cab driver. It also gives you a chance to talk to the people you are driving around without looking like you are questioning them. You also get to see what houses they are going to, what businesses, who they are meeting etc. Great way to find out a ton of info and not have to be noticed.
The docs say that the people on Guerrero street SF, were seen coming and going all day with printing supplies, so who was watching them, and were they following them? if so, maybe it was cab driver (fed agents) sitting there and following them? and if that is the case, it would make sense if people suspected the cabbies, they might kill them if they were sitting nearby too many times.
And also, who is to say that Ray Davis was not a fed agent/informant, working in disguise as a cab driver? He might have been. He comes out of Michigan where they all seem to be coming from.
Also(trying to remember, but can't really) -something about when the one cop in "was it vallejo" can't remember... hit the car of the other cop (both off duty) and the one cop shot the other one... the one shot, ran to the Yellow Cab for help? I probably have this all wrong, but I need to go find that info and get this right, but in GENERAL.... that makes me wonder, how did a cop know that they could go to a certain cab company and get help? did they know their were informants/agents driving the cabs? I have to find that, and it had to do with Cointelpro docs. it was the two black cops. baskett and the other cop. I have to have that info on here somewhere, if not I'll find it.
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Post by amazingates on Feb 4, 2020 12:43:08 GMT -8
Cab Drivers Killed (List)
I'll use this post to list all the names of the cab drivers killed in the areas we are looking at, or have similar circumstances. Then we can go through them all and see if any of them might be fed informants. I'll add to this post as we find more, and put them in order of the Town, County, State. As I find info on each I'll post it with the name, or if there is too much info, I'll start a thread for each name.
San Francisco, CA
Paul Stine - 29 yrs old October 11, 1969 Yellow Cab Zodiac Killer, but why? (Information everywhere)
Charles Jarman - 28 yrs old 1970 Yellow Cab Solved, but need to check out the killer's connections (More info Below in this thread)
Albert Hohl - 57 yrs old March 4, 1981 Luxor Cab Company for 30 yrs since September 1977 Before that Yellow Cab - 1951-1976 Eddy Street Solved - 2 teenage girls convicted (more info below in this thread)
Leonard Carl Smith Arpil 4, 1986 Allied Taxi Location of shooting unknow; he drove to the hospital himself (More info below in this thread)
Oceanside, San Diego County, CA
Ray Davis - 29 yrs old April 10, 1962 Checker Cab Possible Zodiac, similarities
Los Angeles, Los Angeles County CA
George Aird October 10, 1974 Supposedly stabbed by AIM members, witnesses lied. Cointelpro involved in lying. (see info in below posts)
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Post by amazingates on Feb 4, 2020 13:10:34 GMT -8
Charles Jarmon - Cabby- Victim - Who was he really - what connections?
KillerRobert Brommell age 28 From Oregon Left wife and daughter several weeks before killing Was working as a busboy in SF Was looking for job as Mechanic Say killing accident during robbery Article transcribed Man Admits Killing; Claims An Accident SAN FRANCISCO (UPI)- Busbny Robert Bromell admitted to police Friday that he shot and killed Yellow Cab driver Charles Jarman during a robbery, but claimed it was an accident. Bromell, 28, was held without bail on a murder charge. Jarman was shot before dawn Sunday and died at a hospital a day later. The suspect claimed Jarman lunged at him "and I pulled the trigger. I didn’t mean to do it...it just happened.” In his confession confirmed by homicide detectives, Bromell said he took the cab driver’s wallet containing $27 because his girlfriend always kept nagging him for money. "I showed him my gun and he lunged at me...and that's how it happened,” Bromell said. After taking Jarman's wallet. Bromell said he fled on foot toward the Tenderloin District where he roomed with his girlfriend. He said he tossed the wallet into some shrubs and threw a .22 caliber revolver down a storm drain. “1 knew I’d get caught,” said Bromell. "I left fingerprints all over the cab. I’ve got a record so I knew it was only a matter of time before the police picked me up.” Detectives said Bromell deserted a wife and six-month-old daughter in Oregon several weeks ago and came to San Francisco. When he was unable to find work as a mechanic, he was forced to work as a busboy in the city's financial district.
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Post by amazingates on Feb 4, 2020 13:17:21 GMT -8
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Post by amazingates on Feb 4, 2020 13:18:24 GMT -8
Paul Stine - Cabby - Victim
There is so much info on paul stine everywhere. I'll just add things here that might connect to other cabbies or people connected to them.
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Post by amazingates on Feb 4, 2020 13:24:51 GMT -8
this means nothing but it is interesting.....
one of the people who stole the Cointelpro documents(thank you)... was a cab driver haha
In 1971, a cab driver, a day care provider, and two professors stole 1,000 documents from an FBI office in Media, Pennsylvania. They called themselves the Citizens’ Commission to Investigate the FBI, and their discovery would lead to undeniable proof of covert government operations to subvert civil rights groups.
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Post by amazingates on Feb 4, 2020 13:45:51 GMT -8
Cointelpro were targeting Cabbies
Cointelpro was targeting anyone of color, anyone poor, anyone associated with anti-war, women's rights, the revolution, etc. AND.... they were also targeting CABBIES.... you can see they were also getting as many informants as they could, the fed agents had an informant quota they were expected to get if they could not reach their quota, they just made up informants on paper
so how many cabby informants did they have?
and how many cabbies were on paper as an informant when they really were not? and how many names of the informants ended up in the hands of the people they were informing on? and how many cabbies were not informants but were really helping the revolutionary groups but the f eds wanted rid of them so they put out false info on the cabby so the r evolutionaries would no longer trust them. Did this get them killed. Oh, this is very possible. These could very well be a reason why cabbies are getting killed? I think it might very well be. Did someone think Paul Stine was an informant? Did someone think Ray Davis was an informant? AND..... were they?
COINTELPRO was RUTHLESS... constantly sending out fake info to get these factions to divide. If they had known a cabby was helping any one of the "causes", first they would try to "roll him over" as an informant, or they would expose him as one even if he were not. Either way this could definitely get them killed.
Or did some of the fed agents put down names of anyone to get their quota of informants, and someone in the "cause" got ahold of this list of names?
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Post by amazingates on Feb 4, 2020 14:18:43 GMT -8
George Air - Cabby Killed 1974 -
Charges were dropped against Marvin Redshirt, confessed murderer of Los Angeles cab driver George Aird
I need to check out George Aird Cab Driver murdered and see what he was connected to
Here you have cointelpro having informants totally lying as eye witnesses against people cointelpro wanted rid of. one got off for killing a cab driver in exchange for being a total lying witness.
how many other cabby murderers got off for the same reason, or murderers of anyone for that matter. Yes, Cointelpro was allowing people to murder people so long as the murderer was their informant. Even when the informant was lying as a witness. RUTHLESS Cointelpro common tactics. It would be no surprise to me if they also let the Zodiac KILLER go free if he were one of their informants.
The COINTELPRO PAPERS - to facilitate prosecution" is involved in FBI agents bribing an individual, as they did with Louis Moves Camp, to testify as an "eyewitness" to the participation of others in felonious acts allegedly committed at a time when the witness was a thousand miles from the scene? This is just one of the "Bureau activities involving AIM" which came out during the 1974 trial of Russell Means and Dennis Banks, the sort of activity which caused Judge Nichol to dismiss charges and write the opinion quoted earlier.
The same query might be entered with regard to other of the FBI's efforts to secure conviction of AIM members. For example, what sort of legitimacy is it that attaches itself to the arrangement in which charges were dropped against Marvin Redshirt, confessed murderer of Los Angeles cab driver George Aird, in exchange for his admittedly perjured testimony against AIM members Paul "Skyhorse" Durant and Richard "Mohawk" Billings, men who were subsequently exonerated from having any part in the crime?
The COINTELPRO PAPERS - COINTELPRO - AIM(American Indian Movement)
108. The Skyhorse/Mohawk case involved the brutal stabbing murder of Los Angeles cab driver George Aird on October 10, 1974. His body was found at what was called "AIM Camp 13," in Box Canyon (in Ventura County), near the location of the former Manson "family" headquarters at the Spahn Movie Ranch. The facility had some months earlier been ordered closed by Dennis Banks because it was attracting a "rabble of dopers and crazies." Douglass Durham, in his capacity as AIM national director of security and apparently using funds funnelled to him by Virginia "Blue Dove" DeLuse, an actress and FBI infiltrator of LA-AIM, quietly kept the camp open, even going so far as to install a new sign announcing its "AIM sponsorship." In the wake of the discovery of Aird's body, the Ventura County Sheriffs department apprehended three individuals - Marvin Redshirt (an Oglala, non-AIM member), Holly Broussard (Redshirt's non-Indian girlfriend), and Marcella "Makes Noise Eaglestaff" McNoise (another non-Indian) - in possession of the murder weapon. It was quickly established that Aird was last seen alive with the three in the back seat of his cab, shortly before his death. Redshirt admitted having committed the crime. The case seemed rather open and shut. However, the Ventura County Sheriff was shortly visited by agents from the LA FBI office who explained that they had information from a "confidential source" (never disclosed, but thought to have been Durham) that the real killers of Aird were two LA-AIM leaders named Paul "Skyhorse" Durant (Anishinabw and Richard 'Mohawk" Billings (Mohawk). In a strange chain of events which has never been adequately explained by Ventura County prosecutors, charges were then dropped against Redshirt, Broussard and McNoise (against whom there was considerable evidence), and levied against Skyhorse and Mohawk.
The three culprits were then deployed as "eyewitnesses" of what the accused had done to Aird. Press coverage of the charges - prominently featuring photos of Durham's sign - was sensational. Durham utilized his position within AIM to convince Banks and others that Skyhorse and Mohawk were "probably guilty" of the sordid act, thereby depriving them of organizational legal support until well after Durham's own exposure as an FBI infiltrator.
The defendants ultimately received AIM support and were freed after a mistrial, but not before they had served 31 months apiece without bond. This last was in no small part due to the fact that after his exposure, in February 1976, Durham had gone into court disguised as a "psychologist from the University of Iowa" to offer "expert testimony" that the accused were "psychotic" and would represent a "danger to society" if granted bail. Redshirt finally went to prison, but not for the Aird slaying. Instead, he was convicted and sentenced for having stabbed Holly Broussard during a 1978 dispute in Hot Springs, South Dakota; at the time of the incident, both were still receiving federal support for their services in what had ostensibly been a local California case.
More detailed background is provided in Matthiessen, op. cit., 114-6. Also see "FBI Pins Brutal Slayings on AIM," The Guardian, December 1, 1974; and Blackburn, D., "Skyhorse and Mohawk: More Than a Murder Trial," The Nation, December 24,1977. Of further interest, see Anonymous, 'Wounded Knee Trials Go On - The Invisible Man in Phoenix and an FBI Behind Every Mail Box" (Akwesasne Notes, Early Spring 1975), and "Anatomy of an Informer" (Akwesasne Notes, Early Summer 1975)
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Post by amazingates on Feb 4, 2020 17:49:35 GMT -8
Charles Jarmon - Cabby- Victim - Who was he really - what connections?
KillerRobert Brommell age 28 From Oregon Left wife and daughter several weeks before killing Was working as a busboy in SF Was looking for job as Mechanic Say killing accident during robbery Article transcribed Man Admits Killing; Claims An Accident SAN FRANCISCO (UPI)- Busbny Robert Bromell admitted to police Friday that he shot and killed Yellow Cab driver Charles Jarman during a robbery, but claimed it was an accident. Bromell, 28, was held without bail on a murder charge. Jarman was shot before dawn Sunday and died at a hospital a day later. The suspect claimed Jarman lunged at him "and I pulled the trigger. I didn’t mean to do it...it just happened.” In his confession confirmed by homicide detectives, Bromell said he took the cab driver’s wallet containing $27 because his girlfriend always kept nagging him for money. "I showed him my gun and he lunged at me...and that's how it happened,” Bromell said. After taking Jarman's wallet. Bromell said he fled on foot toward the Tenderloin District where he roomed with his girlfriend. He said he tossed the wallet into some shrubs and threw a .22 caliber revolver down a storm drain. “1 knew I’d get caught,” said Bromell. "I left fingerprints all over the cab. I’ve got a record so I knew it was only a matter of time before the police picked me up.” Detectives said Bromell deserted a wife and six-month-old daughter in Oregon several weeks ago and came to San Francisco. When he was unable to find work as a mechanic, he was forced to work as a busboy in the city's financial district.
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Post by amazingates on Feb 4, 2020 17:50:44 GMT -8
Cabby Murders San Francisco Area.
Leonard Carl SmithArpil 4, 1986 Allied Taxi Location of shooting unknow; he drove to the hospital himself Albert HohlEddy Street Solved - 2 teenage girls convicted San Francisco Examiner - August 4, 1986 Albert Hohl info
San Francisco Examiner (San Fran CA) March 4, 1981 - Wednesday
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