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Post by ophion1031 on May 18, 2020 2:53:00 GMT -8
Taylor Morris Teaford (born June 18, 1935) is an American fugitive and suspected murderer who was added to the FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list in 1968. Teaford was born in 1935 at North Fork, California and was raised by his grandmother Pearl due to his parents' separation. Of American Indian descent, he was afflicted with polio at the age of 13 which caused him to walk with a limp to his right leg. Teaford dropped out of school in the ninth grade; his criminal record began as a juvenile, when he was charged with theft and reckless driving at the Fresno County Juvenile Court. He was also imprisoned in 1957 on a rape charge, and in 1955 for burglary. In July 1967, Teaford was sought in a manhunt after the shooting death of his grandmother, Pearl, in North Fork, which also wounded his sister and one other person. He was added to the FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list on May 10, 1968 on a warrant for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution. In 1972, Teaford was charged with the murder of an unidentified woman found dead from strangulation and blunt force trauma in an Oakland, California hotel room on October 2, 1969 (this puts him in the bay area at the right time). Teaford was described by the FBI on his wanted poster to be "strong physically", proficient at firearms use, and to have an "explosive" temper. He was also said to drink alcohol heavily and use narcotics. He was removed from the list in 1972 when federal process against him was dismissed.
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Post by ophion1031 on Dec 22, 2020 0:20:31 GMT -8
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Post by ophion1031 on Dec 22, 2020 0:27:44 GMT -8
As far as I can tell it seems that Teaford is still alive. Did he even serve time in prison? From what I have read about him, there are some things that are not really clear. He murdered his grandmother in July 1967 and then murdered a prostitute in San Francisco, just a couple weeks before the Stine murder. Was he ever captured for either crime? It says that in 1972 he was "charged" with the prostitute murder, so I assume that he was was captured shortly before then. "He was removed from the FBI Most Wanted list in 1972 when federal process against him was dismissed." Maybe I am wrong, but does this mean that all charges against him were dropped? If so, why??? The only way you get away with murder is if you become a snitch, or, just maybe, you become an MK Ultra test subject. Teaford would actually be the perfect test subject. I found a newspaper article from Nov. 10, 1964 that has the headline "Fresno Woman Is Jailed in Fatal Stabbing." It says that a 22 year old woman named Erma Jordan stabbed a Taylor Teaford, 51, of North Folk to death. This must be Teaford's father. The article mentions that Sr Teaford's survivors include his widow and five children. Seems like Sr Teaford may have had some anger issues as well. Here is a link: www.newspapers.com/image/?clipp ... _dzuN46O2Q Another link says "Taylor Morris Teaford was added to the FBI Most Wanted List for murder. According to the FBI Taylor Morris Teaford would murder his grandmother, shot his sister and a police officer to earn his way onto the FBI Most Wanted List in June 1968. Strangely the FBI took him off the list four years later at the request of the prosecutors office and he has never been seen since. Teaford was born in 1935." What happened in 1972 that he was taken off of the FBI Most Wanted List and caused him to disappear??? This is very strange. Maybe he died. But there is no record of his death to be found. EDIT: Teaford's in the 1940 census. www.ancestry.com/1940-census/us ... ord_2g4cn2 Taylor Jr was the oldest child. Only one sibling was born by 1940. Ressie Tex (Taylor Sr's wife, Taylor Jr's mother) was born Dec 17, 1915 in CA, and died Dec 19, 1953.
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Post by ragnarok on Jan 13, 2021 2:30:04 GMT -8
I bet you he was murdered and was either dumped into the pacific ocean or buried in the desert. Otherwise he would have been heard from at some point by somebody.
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Post by eggsnbacon on Jan 16, 2021 8:45:37 GMT -8
Taylor Morris Teaford (born June 18, 1935) is an American fugitive and suspected murderer who was added to the FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list in 1968. Teaford was born in 1935 at North Fork, California and was raised by his grandmother Pearl due to his parents' separation. Of American Indian descent, he was afflicted with polio at the age of 13 which caused him to walk with a limp to his right leg. Teaford dropped out of school in the ninth grade; his criminal record began as a juvenile, when he was charged with theft and reckless driving at the Fresno County Juvenile Court. He was also imprisoned in 1957 on a rape charge, and in 1955 for burglary. In July 1967, Teaford was sought in a manhunt after the shooting death of his grandmother, Pearl, in North Fork, which also wounded his sister and one other person. He was added to the FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list on May 10, 1968 on a warrant for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution. In 1972, Teaford was charged with the murder of an unidentified woman found dead from strangulation and blunt force trauma in an Oakland, California hotel room on October 2, 1969 (this puts him in the bay area at the right time). Teaford was described by the FBI on his wanted poster to be "strong physically", proficient at firearms use, and to have an "explosive" temper. He was also said to drink alcohol heavily and use narcotics. He was removed from the list in 1972 when federal process against him was dismissed.
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Post by eggsnbacon on Jan 16, 2021 9:25:11 GMT -8
Really like Teaford as a under the radar suspect in the zodiac killings, especially the Paul stine murder, from everything I’ve read about Teaford he has all the ingredients, I mean he was on the run from law enforcement, already had a couple of murders under his belt his grandmother and 1 in Oakland county, had a real hatred towards women ( I think it was because he was tried for rape and sent to prison by an all women jury (which was famous at the time), his father was stabbed to death by a women, was around the area at the time of the zodiac crimes, and was supposedly spotted in sonoma county around the times of the Santa Rosa murders, (I think the zodiac and SRHM are connected) I also would bet my house that Fred manalli wrote the corresponding letters in the zodiac case which leads me to believe that these pair knew each other, I think maybe from the us forestry commission as Fred was a fire spotter and Teaford worked as a logger/lumberjack, I also think these pair were into occultism and a dark bdsm scene which maybe included human sacrifices, Teaford was a total nutcase and on the run so it makes sense to me he would join some sort of brotherhood where he would not be on his own and be with like minded people who would help him hide and blend in, a strong man who was accustomed to using fire arms liked tying women up ect. Is he still alive? As there is no death certificate for him so he would be 85 now, the limp is another interesting trait too, so many other murder cases around at the time too which includes a man who witnesses say had a limp Stuart Maher/ Joyce Walker just to name a few, he is also a dead ringer for the robbins kids updated stine sketch and berressa sketch IMO.
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Post by ophion1031 on Jan 16, 2021 20:29:52 GMT -8
I imagine that his grandmother not bailing him out after the rape also played into his hatred for women. Prior to that, she had come to his defense over and over and had gotten him out of trouble dozens of times. The grandmother actually broke up the rape by pulling a shotgun on Teaford, and I think that is when she reached the point of having enough of his bullshit. If Manalli and Teaford did know each other, that could be huge. One thing to really keep in mind, since Teaford just vanished, is that the CIA may have forced him into their MK Ultra program. I believe that Manalli may have also been an MK Ultra test subject, so there could be a link there.
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Post by eggsnbacon on Jan 17, 2021 3:57:55 GMT -8
I imagine that his grandmother not bailing him out after the rape also played into his hatred for women. Prior to that, she had come to his defense over and over and had gotten him out of trouble dozens of times. The grandmother actually broke up the rape by pulling a shotgun on Teaford, and I think that is when she reached the point of having enough of his bullshit. If Manalli and Teaford did know each other, that could be huge. One thing to really keep in mind, since Teaford just vanished, is that the CIA may have forced him into their MK Ultra program. I believe that Manalli may have also been an MK Ultra test subject, so there could be a link there. yes mate it definitely could be a possibility the mk ultra test subject angle could have credibility as to why he just vanished and was removed from most wanted list? I also found an article about pearls husband (Teafords grandfather) who was also murdered (maybe accidentally) think his name was Otis Teaford? So it seems like the Teaford family had a lot of troubles over the years,
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Post by ophion1031 on Jan 17, 2021 20:26:56 GMT -8
I imagine that his grandmother not bailing him out after the rape also played into his hatred for women. Prior to that, she had come to his defense over and over and had gotten him out of trouble dozens of times. The grandmother actually broke up the rape by pulling a shotgun on Teaford, and I think that is when she reached the point of having enough of his bullshit. If Manalli and Teaford did know each other, that could be huge. One thing to really keep in mind, since Teaford just vanished, is that the CIA may have forced him into their MK Ultra program. I believe that Manalli may have also been an MK Ultra test subject, so there could be a link there. yes mate it definitely could be a possibility the mk ultra test subject angle could have credibility as to why he just vanished and was removed from most wanted list? I also found an article about pearls husband (Teafords grandfather) who was also murdered (maybe accidentally) think his name was Otis Teaford? So it seems like the Teaford family had a lot of troubles over the years, Oh wow. Teaford's father was also killed by a woman. Shot or stabbed if I'm not mistaken, during a domestic dispute.
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Post by eggsnbacon on Jan 18, 2021 6:12:47 GMT -8
Yes his father was also stabbed to death in an argument by his much younger girlfriend, an argument which started inside the house and escalated outside where he was fatally stabbed by her, don’t think Teaford had the best start in life. His grandfather picked up a couple of hitchhikers if I remember and one of them had a gun that accidentally went off and ended up killing him, I think they were found to be army deserters, I’m not sure how to add a link but if you google “the strange demise of Taylor Teaford “ the story comes up, edit his grandfather was also called Taylor not Otis,
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Post by ophion1031 on Jan 18, 2021 20:33:02 GMT -8
www.maderatribune.com/single-post/2017/05/23/the-strange-demise-of-taylor-teafordCourtesy of The Madera County Historical Society Otis Teaford, left, is shown here with his son Clifford and a mountain lion they killed. In 1918, Otis was unjustly accused of shooting his brother, Taylor Teaford. On Monday, Oct. 14, 1918, two young men burst into Wawona yelling that there was a dead man in an auto on the road about half a mile away. Michael Phelps, the owner of an auto stage at Wawona, hopped in his vehicle and set out to learn what had happened.When he got to the Ford automobile on the side of the road, Phelps saw the driver slumped over the steering wheel but still alive. As he pulled the man from the car, he recognized him immediately. The victim was Taylor Teaford, the son of George Teaford, former member of the Madera County Board of Supervisors. As Phelps eased Teaford out of the car, the wounded man grabbed his arm and tried to talk. Alas, he couldn’t get the words out. He had been shot through the heart by someone sitting behind him in the back seat of his car. The bullet had traveled through him and out the front window of the auto. Phelps took him back to Wawona, where he died within 30 minutes. Using the primitive telephone, Phelps called a number in the lumber town of Sugar Pine. Taylor Teaford had been shot and killed. The tragic news then was relayed to Madera. At that point an absurd thing happened. No one knows how, but somebody pointed the finger of guilt at Taylor’s brother, Otis Teaford. Somehow the story got around that it was Otis who shot Taylor. R.S. Jay, the undertaker from Madera, came to Wawona and took the body to North Fork for burial. Taylor’s father, George Teaford, rode with him to transport his son’s remains back home. When the elder Teaford heard the story that his other son, Otis, had been accused of the crime, he came unhinged and contacted the man who had just been elected Madera County’s new sheriff, Marshal John Barnett. Barnett shared George Teaford’s incredulity; Otis Teaford was a rugged mountain man but he wasn’t a killer, and he certainly had no reason to murder his own brother. Barnett contacted District Attorney Stanley Murray, and the two headed out for Wawona. They wanted to talk to the two men who had first reported the killing. The two lawmen found the pair in Mariposa in the custody of U.S. Marshal Sidney Shannon. It had been discovered that they were deserters from the U.S. Army. When Barnett and Murray arrived, they took over the investigation, and it didn’t take them long to get the full story from the pair, who were now the prime suspects. One of the men, Catheauas D. Runyon, was 20 years old. The other, Edward W. Dingess, was 21. They had joined the army together in Muncie, Indiana, three years earlier. They were sent first to Nogales, Arizona, where they spent some time guarding the Mexican border. From Arizona, they were sent to the Presidio and from there to Camp Fremont. While at this last station, they were granted a leave of absence and went to Santa Cruz. It was at this seaside resort that their downfall began. They met a couple of girls and stayed in Santa Cruz a day longer than they were allowed. Upon their return to Camp Fremont, they were thrown into the guardhouse and ridiculed. Upon their release for drill, they decided to desert, and left again for Santa Cruz. Upon meeting the two girls, they learned they were going to the Yosemite Valley, so the pair of deserters decided to follow them. They made it as far as the bawdy house at Tipperary and learned that Taylor Teaford was headed to Wawona and would give them a ride. Dingess got in the front seat with Teaford and Runyon got in the back where he saw a rifle on the seat. Picking it up, he asked Teaford if it was loaded. Teaford replied, “No.” At that point, Runyon worked the lever and the gun suddenly went off. “What did you shoot me for?” was all Teaford said after the bullet had passed through his body and out the front window. The car rolled to a stop and the two strangers ran to Wawona for help. Runyon and Dingess were interrogated by Barnett and Murray nonstop for six hours. By the end of that time, the lawmen were convinced that the shooting was accidental. The two deserters were taken back to Camp Fremont to face charges of desertion. As for Taylor Teaford, his interment was in the North Fork cemetery not far from his home. A huge crowd attended the ceremony including a large number of Indians, for Taylor was part Native American. Everyone went home that day, but the real mystery continued. Who had laid the blame on Otis Teaford and why? Otis never did accept the verdict that the shooting was accidental. He maintained for the rest of his life that his brother had been murdered by the two deserters. Taylor Teaford left a wife, Pearl Teaford, and 5-year-old son. Ironically, just weeks before her husband’s killing, Mrs. Teaford took out a $500 insurance policy on her husband’s life. She was the beneficiary.
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Post by eggsnbacon on Jan 19, 2021 6:14:54 GMT -8
Cheers dude
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Post by ophion1031 on Jan 19, 2021 20:00:15 GMT -8
Cheers!
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Post by tyrant on Jan 25, 2021 22:28:15 GMT -8
I don't know how to feel about this guy as a Zodiac suspect but his disappearance is highly unusual and foul play is likely, IMO.Could you imagine a guy like this with violent tendencies and a short fuse mixing up with a CIA brainwashing shrink? What a dangerous duo that would be.
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Post by eggsnbacon on Feb 3, 2021 12:14:50 GMT -8
I don't know how to feel about this guy as a Zodiac suspect but his disappearance is highly unusual and foul play is likely, IMO.Could you imagine a guy like this with violent tendencies and a short fuse mixing up with a CIA brainwashing shrink? What a dangerous duo that would be. hi tyrant, some of the killings I feel Teaford did were complete overkill (Joyce Walker just to name 1) this guy was a complete nutter and to just vanish and be removed off fbi most wanted list is just baffling
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Post by ophion1031 on Feb 6, 2021 20:11:09 GMT -8
I don't know how to feel about this guy as a Zodiac suspect but his disappearance is highly unusual and foul play is likely, IMO.Could you imagine a guy like this with violent tendencies and a short fuse mixing up with a CIA brainwashing shrink? What a dangerous duo that would be. hi tyrant, some of the killings I feel Teaford did were complete overkill (Joyce Walker just to name 1) this guy was a complete nutter and to just vanish and be removed off fbi most wanted list is just baffling It's definitely strange to just disappear like that. The only way the FBI would have taken him off the most wanted list is if he was working with them or if he was dead. And if he was dead, why is there no record of it?
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Post by zodius on Feb 28, 2021 20:30:22 GMT -8
Slap a pair of horn rims on this guy and you got the Stine composite. This guy has the violent tendencies to be a serial killer it's just strange how e disappeared.
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