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Post by ophion1031 on May 31, 2021 22:05:50 GMT -8
Manny Grossman's latest video discusses the possibility that the Catholics For Latin America (CFLA) may have tied into the Son of Sam case. We can discuss that here. Please watch the video first...
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Post by grasshopper on May 31, 2021 22:58:25 GMT -8
In that CIA newspaper article Manny shared the name of JM Kaplan Fund is listed on there with Jacob K Kaplan's name there I think that name came up in something Z related that I was researching maybe 5 years ago or so. I wish I could remember who or what I was researching at the time but I know that name and being from NY is familiar Maybe I will remember one day lol Anyways This video by Manny is neat I think it is a good idea to try to finger who really was the top people of this 'cult' and see what other crimes they are linked to.
I ll ad to this because that article says Jacob K Kaplan but it was really Jacob M Kaplan, the M standing for Merrill He started the JM Kaplan Fund in 1945
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Post by grasshopper on May 31, 2021 23:09:08 GMT -8
Here is a Find A Grave link to the Dr. Onorato that Manny is talking about
This 'Brother JP' guy is whom? And how is it possible that he and some other guy dug up 2 kids bodies when it also says they were dumped in the Hudson River? It can't be both lol. Were they buried or dumped in the river?
And here is the Onorato/Carr link John R. Onorato was the brother [?] of Dr. Robert Onorato. He married Pauline Carr of Yonkers. I found no info on Pauline. How was she related to the Carr family?
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Post by ophion1031 on Jun 1, 2021 1:39:50 GMT -8
Grasshopper, if you need any help looking to Kaplan, please let me know.
I don't think that Dr. Robert Onorato was the brother of John Onorato, but it looks like they were related somehow. John was born in Yonkers. Robert is mentioned in John's obituary, but it does not say how they are related. John was born in 1905 and died in 1967. Something is definitely off when visiting John's Find-A-Grave page that you posted. It says his father (Rocco) was born in 1896 and his mother (Angela) in 1887. This would mean his mother was either 17 or 18 years old, and his father would have only been 8 or 9. It also says that John's siblings were born in 1893 (Nicholas), 1895 (Victor), 1899 (James), 1909 (Angelo), and 1928 (Rocco). His obituary says that he had three brothers and three sisters, so none of this makes sense. So Rocco had kids that were younger than him haha. Most likely someone just messed up and put the wrong year for Rocco.
Here is a 1941 mention of Robert being in the military: PAGE 4, THE HERALD STATESMAN, YONKERS, N. Y., WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 17,1941 First Lieutenant-Robert Onorato, grandson of Rocco Onorato of 20 Lindsey Street, a physician stationed at Schofield Barracks, wired he was safe. He was in the Army hospital when the Japanese attacked the barracks. The hospital was not bombed. Lieutenant Onorato is a nephew of Dr. Angelo Onorato of 184 Elm Street.
So Robert is the son of Victor (born 1895) and would have been John's nephew, and Pauline Carr was his aunt. Ok, got that figured out now.
EDIT: Correct DOB for Rocco Sr. was Oct. 14, 1868, not 1896. He was a tavern owner. His obituary from 1943 says that his grandson Robert is a captain in the U.S. Army, on duty in the Pacific.
Alrighty, so that is all cleared up. Now to find out how Pauline was related to the Carr family. I have found nothing on her. It could be that she was a Carr by marriage and then divorced and later married John Onorato.
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Post by grasshopper on Jun 1, 2021 23:05:26 GMT -8
TY for finding that info Any luck finding how Pauline was related to the Carrs?
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Post by ophion1031 on Jun 1, 2021 23:51:03 GMT -8
TY for finding that info Any luck finding how Pauline was related to the Carrs? Manny Grossman has claimed that Pauline is Sam Carr's sister, but I have not been able to confirm that just yet. Still working on it.
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Post by grasshopper on Jun 6, 2021 20:01:31 GMT -8
TY for finding that info Any luck finding how Pauline was related to the Carrs? Manny Grossman has claimed that Pauline is Sam Carr's sister, but I have not been able to confirm that just yet. Still working on it. I looked for info on Pauline too and struck out Cant find nothing on her
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