Post by vtsquire on Sept 25, 2021 11:28:00 GMT -8
Hey everyone. Even though this is my first comment or post, I just wanted to take a brief moment to highlight that I registered here specifically because in my research on Don Sisco/Kurt Saxon, I kept encountering names, places and organizations that keep leading me back to this board. My hope is that the familiarity you all have with some of that information can be helpful in terms of ruling this guy in/out. Without any fluff, here's a list of basic facts about Kurt Saxon.
BIRTH NAME: Donald Eugene Sisco (Ancestry.com)
BIRTHDATE: March 06, 1932 (Ancestry.com)
AGE DURING THE CONFIRMED ZODIAC MURDERS: 36-37
HEIGHT: I estimate about 5'9"
LEGALLY CHANGED NAME TO: Kurt Saxon / Feb 7, 1977 (But used it as an alias dating back at least as far as 1970) (Times Standard, Eureka CA January 20 1977 / Ancestry.com)
PEN NAME(S): Bonnie and Clyde Barrow, unknown what others he used (Poor Man's Armorer, Vol 2 Issue 1, 1979)
RESIDENCE: 673 14th Ave, San Francisco, CA (1966-?) (Ancestry.com trace of previous resident named by Kurt, supported by pictures of their passports)
RESIDENCE: Los Angeles (? - ?)
RESIDENCE: 634 2nd St, Eureka, CA (1969 - 1977) (Kurt and "Valgard" Murray's co-substantiating claim to be monitored by federal agents during presidential visit to Eureka CA occurring on August 27 1969)
RESIDENCE: Alpena, AR (1978 - 2021) (Wikipedia)
ASSOCIATION(S): Member of The Minutemen (Prior to 1969) (Kurt's own claim)
ASSOCIATION: Member of The American Nazi Party (1969 and Prior) (Kurt's own claim, corroborated by Michael "Valgard" Murray)
ASSOCIATION: Member of The John Birch Society (1969 and prior) (Kurt's own claims)
ASSOCIATION: Iron Cross Motorcycle Club (Prior to 1972) (Wheels of Rage, 1972)
ASSOCIATION: Anton LaVey (Saxon is a founding member of the Church of Satan (1966 - 1978) (Zeena Schrek/LaVey, interview 1998)
ASSOCIATION: William Thoresen III (Business / Correspondence Prior to June 1970) (Kurt's Senate testimony, August 5, 1970)
ASSOCIATION: Dennis Mower (Rumored in "the Deguello Report") (Produced 1976)
ASSOCIATION: Susan Atkins (Via The Church of Satan) (1967)
ASSOCIATION: Troy Haughton (Tangentially via the Minutemen, particularly in regard to Southern California)
ASSOCIATION: Sam Brody (Via Church of Satan, employee of Melvin Belli)
ASSOCIATED LOCATION: 6114 California St, San Francisco (Black House, Church of Satan) (1966-1978)
ASSOCIATED LOCATION: 2801 Broadway (Home of William Thoresen III)
ASSOCIATED LOCATION: 5 3rd st/Hearst Building, San Francisco. It housed the San Francisco office for the Los Angeles Herald Examiner.
EMPLOYMENT: Proofreader at Los Angeles Herald Examiner (? - 1969)
(Herald Examiner reporter William Farr reported in an article that Manson had planned to murder Elizabeth Taylor and Frank Sinatra. Farr was summoned by judge Charles Older to divulge his sources for the article. Farr refused and served jail time over it)
EMPLOYMENT: Public speaker / "founder" of Survivalist movement
EMPLOYMENT: Self published author of "Militants' Formulary," ""Explosives Like Grandad Used to Make," "Poor Man's James Bond," "Poor Man's Armorer," etc.
NOTABLE LIFE EVENT: Negligent explosion while manufacturing explosives disfigured his left hand (lower joint amputations were necessary) and resulted in cuts on his right hand sometime in 1969 prior to August 27.
NOTABLE LIFE EVENT: Testified at RIOTS, CIVIL AND CRIMINAL DISORDERS WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 5, 1970 U.S. SENATE, PERMANENT SUBCOMMITTEE ON INVESTIGATIONS OF THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS
SUSPICIOUS STUFF:
1. Authored article to construct what he specifically called a "Trigger Mechanism" capable of overcoming adverse lighting conditions, utilizing daylight and a series of photo-electric switches to detonate explosives.
2. Published article "electric cycle light" authored by someone using the pseudonym "Zodiac", originally published 1898
3. Published/Authored article on how to construct home made fireworks modelled on a "buss bomb." Unknown if he was using a pseudonym, or if it really was a reader submission.
4. Authored article on DIY Bomb disposal suit with square-topped mask/hood.
5. Published article on DIY knife-making.
6. Published article on DIY Silencers.
7. Published article on DIY "cypher" making.
8. Published article on mounting a flashlight for night-time shooting.
9. Authored an article specifically mentioning the (real life) Mikado.
10. Authored instructions to anyone writing in to him regarding which writing utensils are conducive to re-printing, specifically mentioning felt-tipped pens. He specifically used the phrase "if you will."
11. Had a reputation for trolling Police and Newspapers by letter campaign, resulting in several requests to cease and desist.
11. 1 week after his local paper published an article titled "God-Satan Chief Tate Death Figure" describing Charles Manson as "the leader of a hippie-type roving band whose members call him 'God' and 'Satan'", the same paper published a letter to the Editor authored by Don Sisco, denouncing hippies as "Dangerous loafers."
12. Regularly used the circled-cross design in his design schematics with identical proportions to those typical of the letters.
13. Pictured are: Anton LaVey and Susan Atkins in the coffin. The man on the left in white is likely to be Kurt (Im going on the location of an apparent mole and a distinct jowl line or possibly a scar going down the cheek toward the neck), but without the full reel of pictures from this day I just can't be 100% positive. And of course, there is the unknown executioner.
This is Kurt August 5 1970
imgur.com/a/l68llH6
This is a photo of him from the 80's
BIRTH NAME: Donald Eugene Sisco (Ancestry.com)
BIRTHDATE: March 06, 1932 (Ancestry.com)
AGE DURING THE CONFIRMED ZODIAC MURDERS: 36-37
HEIGHT: I estimate about 5'9"
LEGALLY CHANGED NAME TO: Kurt Saxon / Feb 7, 1977 (But used it as an alias dating back at least as far as 1970) (Times Standard, Eureka CA January 20 1977 / Ancestry.com)
PEN NAME(S): Bonnie and Clyde Barrow, unknown what others he used (Poor Man's Armorer, Vol 2 Issue 1, 1979)
RESIDENCE: 673 14th Ave, San Francisco, CA (1966-?) (Ancestry.com trace of previous resident named by Kurt, supported by pictures of their passports)
RESIDENCE: Los Angeles (? - ?)
RESIDENCE: 634 2nd St, Eureka, CA (1969 - 1977) (Kurt and "Valgard" Murray's co-substantiating claim to be monitored by federal agents during presidential visit to Eureka CA occurring on August 27 1969)
RESIDENCE: Alpena, AR (1978 - 2021) (Wikipedia)
ASSOCIATION(S): Member of The Minutemen (Prior to 1969) (Kurt's own claim)
ASSOCIATION: Member of The American Nazi Party (1969 and Prior) (Kurt's own claim, corroborated by Michael "Valgard" Murray)
ASSOCIATION: Member of The John Birch Society (1969 and prior) (Kurt's own claims)
ASSOCIATION: Iron Cross Motorcycle Club (Prior to 1972) (Wheels of Rage, 1972)
ASSOCIATION: Anton LaVey (Saxon is a founding member of the Church of Satan (1966 - 1978) (Zeena Schrek/LaVey, interview 1998)
ASSOCIATION: William Thoresen III (Business / Correspondence Prior to June 1970) (Kurt's Senate testimony, August 5, 1970)
ASSOCIATION: Dennis Mower (Rumored in "the Deguello Report") (Produced 1976)
ASSOCIATION: Susan Atkins (Via The Church of Satan) (1967)
ASSOCIATION: Troy Haughton (Tangentially via the Minutemen, particularly in regard to Southern California)
ASSOCIATION: Sam Brody (Via Church of Satan, employee of Melvin Belli)
ASSOCIATED LOCATION: 6114 California St, San Francisco (Black House, Church of Satan) (1966-1978)
ASSOCIATED LOCATION: 2801 Broadway (Home of William Thoresen III)
ASSOCIATED LOCATION: 5 3rd st/Hearst Building, San Francisco. It housed the San Francisco office for the Los Angeles Herald Examiner.
EMPLOYMENT: Proofreader at Los Angeles Herald Examiner (? - 1969)
(Herald Examiner reporter William Farr reported in an article that Manson had planned to murder Elizabeth Taylor and Frank Sinatra. Farr was summoned by judge Charles Older to divulge his sources for the article. Farr refused and served jail time over it)
EMPLOYMENT: Public speaker / "founder" of Survivalist movement
EMPLOYMENT: Self published author of "Militants' Formulary," ""Explosives Like Grandad Used to Make," "Poor Man's James Bond," "Poor Man's Armorer," etc.
NOTABLE LIFE EVENT: Negligent explosion while manufacturing explosives disfigured his left hand (lower joint amputations were necessary) and resulted in cuts on his right hand sometime in 1969 prior to August 27.
NOTABLE LIFE EVENT: Testified at RIOTS, CIVIL AND CRIMINAL DISORDERS WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 5, 1970 U.S. SENATE, PERMANENT SUBCOMMITTEE ON INVESTIGATIONS OF THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS
SUSPICIOUS STUFF:
1. Authored article to construct what he specifically called a "Trigger Mechanism" capable of overcoming adverse lighting conditions, utilizing daylight and a series of photo-electric switches to detonate explosives.
2. Published article "electric cycle light" authored by someone using the pseudonym "Zodiac", originally published 1898
3. Published/Authored article on how to construct home made fireworks modelled on a "buss bomb." Unknown if he was using a pseudonym, or if it really was a reader submission.
4. Authored article on DIY Bomb disposal suit with square-topped mask/hood.
5. Published article on DIY knife-making.
6. Published article on DIY Silencers.
7. Published article on DIY "cypher" making.
8. Published article on mounting a flashlight for night-time shooting.
9. Authored an article specifically mentioning the (real life) Mikado.
10. Authored instructions to anyone writing in to him regarding which writing utensils are conducive to re-printing, specifically mentioning felt-tipped pens. He specifically used the phrase "if you will."
11. Had a reputation for trolling Police and Newspapers by letter campaign, resulting in several requests to cease and desist.
11. 1 week after his local paper published an article titled "God-Satan Chief Tate Death Figure" describing Charles Manson as "the leader of a hippie-type roving band whose members call him 'God' and 'Satan'", the same paper published a letter to the Editor authored by Don Sisco, denouncing hippies as "Dangerous loafers."
12. Regularly used the circled-cross design in his design schematics with identical proportions to those typical of the letters.
13. Pictured are: Anton LaVey and Susan Atkins in the coffin. The man on the left in white is likely to be Kurt (Im going on the location of an apparent mole and a distinct jowl line or possibly a scar going down the cheek toward the neck), but without the full reel of pictures from this day I just can't be 100% positive. And of course, there is the unknown executioner.
This is Kurt August 5 1970
imgur.com/a/l68llH6
This is a photo of him from the 80's