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Post by ophion1031 on Oct 21, 2019 23:27:52 GMT -8
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Post by amazingates on Nov 8, 2019 2:28:10 GMT -8
This is an interesting card. A lot of people thing the 13 stands for 13 victims. I personally do not think that.
Let me work on this, I've never done this one before but I see some things going on here.
hmmm this is a hard one but I think I pretty much know what it is doing, I'll have to get all the CHECKS and will post tomorrow, it is 2:30 am right now and I need sleep.
but this in an instruction card for how to use the BIG 13. I think it might have multiple solves. it looks like it does. One part seems to be giving a bit of info about Zodiac, and another layer is giving instructions on how to solve the Big 13, which has to do with the Halloween card. I'll get this all done tomorrow and on here and then we can try instructions out and see what they tell us. hopefully it will give us a really good piece of info. I already figured out HOW to use it to get the info, just too sleepy to put it all out here and try it out.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 8, 2019 16:51:56 GMT -8
okay finally can get on here and go through this. I've got half of it done, I'll have to work on the other half as I go. some whacko whacked/hacked my computer last night and I got up to having to do all my stuff over. GRR Hope whoever it was is reading here.. the more they try to make me shut up, the more I'm putting out here LOL I am using NATIONS CODE to work this out. You can read about THE NATIONS CODE on the following link. if you need help post on that thread and I will help you theslaughterhouse.freeforums.net/thread/351/nations-codeok here is the first part. This is the part giving instruction on how to take this message and work the Big 13 on the Halloween card (you will see the 13 is not about how many victims, it is about the halloween card and how to use it on the 340. I will explain this all more in detail if you don't get it... it's hard to follow if you don't ask questions and see it step by step.
the black in the front are the words straight off the card. the other words following are words I guessed as the meanings, and the blue ones are the ones that worked and checked out and matched. as you choose your word, you do what it says and see if it makes sense all the way through, if not, then you have something wrong. if you can't find what your word says, then it is not checking. This is an "instruction" solution code, so they are a bit different than an "information" solution code (I'll explain that later)You'll hate me loathe, spurn, dislike, look down on, be sorry, curse - look down on me (Zodiac) but - contrast, on the other hand, (on the other arm/hand of the z symbol, the right hand) I've got grab, pick up, snag, seize, fetch, obtain, draw, take, cop, compass, bring in, score, realize to tell you - to tell is to testify, speak, report, break the news, open up, put before THE PACE = walk back and forth .. instructions telling you to go back and forth across the card, or back and forth across something.(maybe the 340) Clip, ISN'T ANY SLOWER(not slower) = faster, dashing, break your neck, hairtrigger, like a bat out of hell, immoral IN FACT = bottom line (it was horrible = 13 letters) It's = (') part it , part "its" away from the other lettersJUST ONE - JUST ONE - there was only ONE - just one word( make it one word and leave the "IT" parted away)
BIG THIRTEENTH - UNLUCKY = 13 ( 13 letters bottom line). It was horrible (there are 13 letters in IT WAS HORRIBLE)SOME - sum = add =ad (add together) Add together "It was horrible = itwashorrilbe ( but we have to separate IT out of there, so we have WASHORRIBLEOF THEM FOUGHT - boxed, mix it up, exchange blows, ply weapons . "some" are Boxed boxed(inside) some are not IT WAS HORRIBLE - whore-ible , scary, frightful( boo) - HALLOWEEN CARD It was horrible = ITWASHORRIBLE(now all one word). PART OUT THE "IT) = WASHHORRIBLESo we have to take the 13 letters . IT WAS HORRIBLE, ADD THEM TOGETHER = ITWASHORRIBLE(13 letters) ,remove the "it" to get the the WASHORRIBLE = WASHABLE (phonics) to to know what is in the BIG 13 letters in the BIG 13. Horrible is also scary and frightful. so that is the Scary Halloween card with BOO...
so you go to the halloween card, find the BIG 13(the 13 eyes), some are boxed, inside, some are scary BOO. it is the 13 eyes on the halloween card... They match the 13 holes on the 13 card in number so you know how many holes to cut. the 13 HOLES in this card we are working on here. so you know you have to find the BIG 13 on the scary halloween card. that would be the 13 eyes... some are boxed and some are scary, by the word BOO. the others are in the veneer peeking out. they are boxed in wood. So you know we have to CUT those out. just like the holes in this card.
so you punch out the 13 eyes in the halloween card. then the halloween card is washable... then it is able to be layered. you can WASH(layer) the veneer over something then. so you wash it over the 340.
now we have to get the instructions HOW to wash it over the 340. So you know every time you decode instructions in the messages and it tells you something about cut out i's you need to find the movements in the instructions where to go for each specific message
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Post by amazingates on Nov 8, 2019 17:20:47 GMT -8
this is very hard to explain.. it's easy if you already know how to do it, but for anyone who has never done this, I know I'm not explaining this very well, so please ask questions and I'll try to figure out how to explain it better so you can 'get it'
That was the first part of the 13 card.... now I have to rework the second half again because it got poofed off my computer last night. so I'll do the second half of the 13 card here in a bit.
we also need to find out where the messages are for the instructions on WHERE to "wash" (layer) move the cut out eyes over the 340. I don't know if they are in the second half of this card or not. I see something going on there and was in the middle of working it last night but did not get it that far. Because this is an instruction message on how to use the halloween card(part of it) these instructions of cutting out the eyes and then washing it over the 340, is probably going to be used many times for different messages...
but I'll work the second half of the 13 card here in a bit.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 8, 2019 20:59:23 GMT -8
now for the 2nd part of the Big 13 card
This is one of the GATES of Zodiac
THIS PART OF THE 13 CARD IS TELLING US THE LOCATION ON THE 340 TO BEGIN WITH THE HALLOWEEN CARD EYES CUT OUT. TELLING US WHERE TO OVERLAY IT. IT ALSO TELLS US TO KEEP GOING AND MOVING.
I HAVE NOT TRIED IT. CAN SOMEONE HELP ME with putting the overlay over the 340 and moving it. You will have to justify the card to fit correctly on the 340. they have to be the right size to start out with. so they will line up correctly. I can do that, but I'm not that good at that part and will take me a long time.
I'm working this as I'm typing it. I still have a little more CHECKING to do here, but until we get that overlay EYES on the 340 and highlight the letters showing through, I won't be able to do ALL of the checks. but i think I pretty much have them all anyway.
P.S.
UPDATE : the T = TARGET(the target letter to start the overlay) T- Its possible T might be included in P.S. I don't know yet. But I'll work it both ways and see what happens I totally missed this part yesterday... the T is TARGET... TARGET HERE = The place where you are going to start is the TARGET letter on teh 340, and that is why the T... it is saying that this is going tell where the TARGET is.
P.S. T . could this mean position. is this some kind of abbr. for printing? -
T= could be a T-Square, printers use those to justify , to tee up = arrange
Here = in this place, present, on board, in this direction, on hand, within reach
(HEAR phonics) = get, be all ears, become aware, take in, devour, heed, pick up, strain
There = present, near, in view, on hand, show up, within reach, unfalling, come through, counted on, straight, continuing, ceasless(don't stop) cop is unfalling, it is not in a straight line going down like pic is, it is going up around the F? is that the right cop word?
Are= (R) exist, continue, last, go on, move, obtain, have place
Reports- communications, documents, notes, cover, relay, pass on, write up, make public, make known, give the facts, state re ports. have to do with ports .. ports = GATES, landing, piers (peers), roads(pathways)
city police - = PD I'm not sure on this one... to get this you have to go to the P, drop down, hit the> and get to the first letter which is D... that could be wrong totally.
pig cops =left side of the F coming top to bottom is PlG . the l is the back of the backwards K... but really is "l >", the "l' in pig, and the > mark closing in on F
Are (R) exist, continue last, go on, move, obtain, have place . hmmmm LAST... is that telling us where to STOP on the last letter we are suppose to go to, (in a closed off boxed section?) . I don't know. there is also an "R" right up there.
closeing in on me close ing close = by . ing = NG . ME = Zodiac or the symbol for zodiac . so it is close by the NG and Zodiac Symbol
in on me... N on top of ME(where is that at) has to be in the 340
Fk - ? hmm that might be a starting position? is there an Fk on the 340? that might be the FK on the 340, second row from the bottom, second and 3rd letter from the left, close / on top, oh I see it, closing in on me
oh wait(here is the right one)... it is the backwards K in the 340... ok that backward K is >l F > . that F is closed in. + on top, >on the left pointing to l "F" with > on the right, and and downward "arrow" on the bottom. and ME(Zodiac) is right below it. and also 2 spaces over from (downward arrow . ) to the left. also right there is PIG COP PD etc. so this is definitely all right there...so this is the GATE
and close is BY coming up diagonally with NG(ing) going diagonally up to the F.... ( this is a starting point)
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I still have to do this part but I need to take a small break, I'll come back and finish in a bit
I'm- I am -separate I'm -
Crackproof - safe, crack for proof, leak proof, crack troop, cracks off, crackpot, (prof cracko hahaha just kidding LOL) Crack the "<" off the "l" . on the backwards K.. that is not a K... it is l <
Crack - break, discover meaning, answer, flip, blow up, lose it(remove it), go to pieces
Proof - photo print, clue, argument, witness, low down (go down low), documents, facts, trace, score
go down low... keep moving down?
What is
The Price = figure, outlay, score
tag- button, card, marker, stub, tab, ID, follow
Now - at the present, first off, directly,
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Post by amazingates on Nov 8, 2019 21:18:26 GMT -8
On the second half of the BIG 13 card. when you get down by the CRACKPROOF instruction are, it is telling you to GO DOWN. Follow, keep moving..
I think what we have to do now is to get the Halloween card, cut out the eyes, overlay it up at that backwards K = < l , the pig, the cop, the PD, etc, and NG and zodiac symbol, so we know we definitely have the correct starting point to put the punched out eyes over the 340. so start there. that is the starting point... they we keep moving it down. collect all those letters that are showing up through the eyes. write those out and then I can decode what it says.
I'll try to do the overlay and cut the eyes out also, but I work better with words. I have done the hard part, can someone help do the cutting out of the eyes and put it on the starting point, and move it down and write down the letters that are showing through the eyes, and then post it on this thread, so I can CHECK with the code to see what it is saying.
someone is going to have to get it in the right proportions to get the right letters to show through, so whatever photos you are using of the halloween card and the 340, they are going to have to be the same size and you are going to have to "justify" it on there. you have to "T" it on there, square it up correctly, or it won't work.
I might have to go back into the instructions and find more of the printers markers. dashing, T, etc. I don't know. I don't think so. but if we need more, i'll go through it and find it. In the meantime I'm going to go redo, all of my CHECKS. but I'm pretty dang sure I have them all correct.
just thought about this also, one of the instructions said FLIP IT... and if you look at the punched holes in the BIG 13 card(what I call the victim 13 card) it looks like that might be flipped, but I don't know.. so do it both ways. put the halloween card eyes running with the scary eyes on the right and the ones on the veneer wood part tree things on the left... then flip it over and also do it on the other side.... get all the letters, but separte for each side of the flipping... don't combine them. you will do it with the 4 hole on the left, and then the 4 holes on the right when you flip it over. get both sets of those letters, and then let me know and I'll decode that stuff based on the coding instructions here.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 8, 2019 21:33:32 GMT -8
it would probably be best to just get a highlighter marker and mark them through the eye holes and that way they will be marked on the 340 graph. because there might be other "pointers" about other letters in other communications I'm working on that go along with this.
from my experience working with all of zodiacs communications over the years, he will a lot of times give you some info in one part and some in another. and if we don't have that other part, it makes it extremely hard to figure out what he is doing. but in the BIG 13 he not only told us the instructions but he also gave us the directions... that is great. but he might give us more info time-bound on what we are doing now, and if we don't have it already done, the next message won't work out without this info to go with it.
it seems like that halloween card is one of our major KEYS to working the 340... but we still need to decode all of the messages in his communications to know where to start next time and time after for each message... some might have us build off of this one, so best to mark it right on the 340 in yellow highlighter for turning the hole punches to the left, and mark in very light some other color for hole punches turned to the left. and who knows we might have to do it both ways and then criss-cross it back and forth between the two to read it. we won't know yet until it is done and I can CHECK it... we have to CHECK it or he might have a bogus answer if we do it wrong, that looks right, but isn't, so we have to get the CHECKS to be sure which is right and which isn't. Knowing zodiac he might put a fake solve in there with someone elses name or something for the hell of it hahaha, but I doubt we are getting his name out of this. it is going to be some kind of info, or something crazy like Guess AGaIN haha.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 8, 2019 22:29:58 GMT -8
I just read through all that above that I posted and it all is correct and makes perfect sense, but when reading it as if I didn't know how to do this, then I think a lot of people are not going to understand a dang word I said up there hahah. Now if someone knows the code they will be able to see it is right and checks out. so I am sure this is going to be hard for others to understand what I just said. ugh. So I'll try to go through later and make it more detailed step by step and work it along with anyone who wants to learn to work it. Just ask me.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 8, 2019 22:48:07 GMT -8
I just thought of something else. THAT CROSS WITH BLOOD ON IT... that is "THE BLOOD OF THE CROSS"
There is definitely another layer in this card.
That "BLOOD OF THE CROSS" is a huge clue about zodiac. so there has to be another layer inside that telling us something. I'll look for it. I saw a couple of things going on in there already, that's why I thought at first it might be multi-layered. I'll wait though until we get the letters out of the 340... that will give us a lot more info to work with.
I really don't want to say this.. but that "Blood Of The Cross" reminds me of "Christ The King"
Colossians 1:20 - And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, , whether [they be] things in earth, or things in heaven.
of coures it could always mean blood on medic with a cross on his medical hat, scrubs or bag or something. ?
and it could always mean the blood on the kkk cross...
but I'm almost tempted to guess it is BLOOD OF THE CROSS . AS IN . CHRIST THE KING.
if so, this is really getting crazy.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 9, 2019 1:17:00 GMT -8
now for the 2nd part of the Big 13 card
This is one of the GATES of Zodiac
THIS PART OF THE 13 CARD IS TELLING US THE LOCATION ON THE 340 TO BEGIN WITH THE HALLOWEEN CARD EYES CUT OUT. TELLING US WHERE TO OVERLAY IT. IT ALSO TELLS US TO KEEP GOING AND MOVING.
I HAVE NOT TRIED IT. CAN SOMEONE HELP ME with putting the overlay over the 340 and moving it. You will have to justify the card to fit correctly on the 340. they have to be the right size to start out with. so they will line up correctly. I can do that, but I'm not that good at that part and will take me a long time.
I'm working this as I'm typing it. I still have a little more CHECKING to do here, but until we get that overlay EYES on the 340 and highlight the letters showing through, I won't be able to do ALL of the checks. but i think I pretty much have them all anyway. P.S.
UPDATE : the T = TARGET(the target letter to start the overlay) T- Its possible T might be included in P.S. I don't know yet. But I'll work it both ways and see what happens I totally missed this part yesterday... the T is TARGET... TARGET HERE = The place where you are going to start is the TARGET letter on teh 340, and that is why the T... it is saying that this is going tell where the TARGET is.
T- Its possible T might be included in P.S. I don't know yet. But I'll work it both ways and see what happens P.S. T . could this mean position. is this some kind of abbr. for printing?
T= could be a T-Square, printers use those to justify , to tee up = arrangeHere = in this place, present, on board, in this direction, on hand, within reach (HEAR phonics) = get, be all ears, become aware, take in, devour, heed, pick up, strain There = present, near, in view, on hand, show up, within reach, unfalling, come through, counted on, straight, continuing, ceasless(don't stop) cop is unfalling, it is not in a straight line going down like pic is, it is going up around the F? is that the right cop word?Are= (R) exist, continue, last, go on, move, obtain, have placeReports- communications, documents, notes, cover, relay, pass on, write up, make public, make known, give the facts, state re ports. have to do with ports .. ports = GATES, landing, piers (peers), roads(pathways) city police - = PD I'm not sure on this one... to get this you have to go to the P, drop down, hit the> and get to the first letter which is D... that could be wrong totally. pig cops =left side of the F coming top to bottom is PlG . the l is the back of the backwards K... but really is "l >", the "l' in pig, and the > mark closing in on F Are (R) exist, continue last, go on, move, obtain, have place . hmmmm LAST... is that telling us where to STOP on the last letter we are suppose to go to, (in a closed off boxed section?) . I don't know. there is also an "R" right up there.closeing in on me close ing close = by . ing = NG . ME = Zodiac or the symbol for zodiac . so it is close by the NG and Zodiac Symbol in on me... N on top of ME(where is that at) has to be in the 340Fk - ? hmm that might be a starting position? is there an Fk on the 340? that might be the FK on the 340, second row from the bottom, second and 3rd letter from the left, close / on top,
oh I see it, closing in on me
oh wait(here is the right one)... it is the backwards K in the 340... ok that backward K is >l F > . that F is closed in. + on top, >on the left pointing to l "F" with > on the right, and and downward "arrow" on the bottom. and ME(Zodiac) is right below it. and also 2 spaces over from (downward arrow . ) to the left. also right there is PIG COP PD etc. so this is definitely all right there...so this is the GATE the by(close) ng(ing) all right there also. so every single think coded up top of this is all right there, so there is no mistaking whatsoever, this is the correct starting point.
and close is BY coming up diagonally with NG(ing) going diagonally up to the F.... ( this is a starting point)
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I still have to do this part but I need to take a small break, I'll come back and finish in a bit I'm- I am - separate I'm - Crackproof - safe, crack for proof, leak proof, crack troop, cracks off, crackpot, (prof cracko hahaha just kidding LOL) Crack the " <" off the "l" . on the backwards K.. that is not a K... it is l <Crack - break, discover meaning, answer, flip, blow up, lose it(remove it), go to pieces Proof - photo print, clue, argument, witness, low down ( go down low), documents, facts, trace, score
go down low... keep moving down? What is The Price = figure, outlay, score tag- button, card, marker, stub, tab, ID, followNow - at the present, first off, directly,
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Post by amazingates on Nov 9, 2019 1:21:56 GMT -8
So now what we have to do is this...
we have to get the size of the original halloween card and the size of the original 340... and the size of the punch holes in the 13 card. All of this stuff has to be "to size" or it might slide over too far or not far enough. remember the feds/police have the originals so they did not have to do this part....but we have to... well we don't HAVE to do it, we can try it without it, but if the sizes are "off" it might not line up correctly and we pick out the wrong letters through the eye holes.
I'm going to try tomorrow to go ahead and do it without knowing the correct size and see if it works, but if not, then we have to get the right sizes to line this stuff up.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 9, 2019 1:45:54 GMT -8
one of the other things i noitce about this card when it is upside down and backwords.... zodiac = caipoz . = Cape Oz.. that probably means nothing at all but it keeps nagging at me when I see it, so does it mean something... what is CAPE OZ? is that like the wizard of OZ? you know I have really never paid that much attention to the Wizard of Oz. hmm I need to look at this more, I'll start another thread for that. theslaughterhouse.freeforums.net/thread/353/cape-wizard-13th-victim-card
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Post by amazingates on Nov 9, 2019 12:56:37 GMT -8
The Big 13 card is not the only communication from Zodiac that uses the eyes on the card... some of the zodiacs other communications also reference how to use the punched holes to overly the 340 and WHERE to start on the 340. I'll have to work those out also, but this is going to take time.
Today I will try to go ahead and punch out the holes on halloween card and start at the <lF locations which has all of the surrounding cops, pig, closeing (<> ing) etc, and see if I can make this work without having to resize the card and the 340 to the correct size they were originally. It might work out anyway.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 9, 2019 14:45:59 GMT -8
Going back through to see if I missed anything and realized what the T in the word THERE was...
T is separated.... T- the T is TARGET... TARGET HERE = The place where you are going to start is the TARGET letter on teh 340, and that is why the T... it is saying that this is going tell where the TARGET is.
This makes the following word, actually HERE, not THERE.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 9, 2019 22:28:54 GMT -8
ok I printed out the 340 and the halloween card, jabbed holes in the eyes. but I don't have the card to the scale of the 340, so I marked through the eyes with a pen onto the 340 (through the eye holes) and chose the letters that are the closest to the holes, most of it lined up okay but was still kind of on the edge of the letter. but I chose the letters nearest the marks I made through the holes. I also lifted up the paper many times to peek under there and came up with the same letters. my printouts are off scale though so I need help. the card printout is too big because the larger 4 eyes is running off the side of the 340. So I flipped it sideways, upside down etc, and it still would not fit... so I went back and re-read the instructions again. because I thought well maybe I'm suppose to start somewhere else instead of the >lF with the pig cop etc up by the backwards K... but I'm still sure I am suppose to start there...
but I read it again...it says look down on me(Zodiac) so I look all the way down from the >LF and go to the bottom line. where it says zodaik on the 340... so that would be GO DOWN ON, ME(zodiac) The instructions also mentioned "bottom line" so it is still running off the paper, so I put the bottom hole on the Z with is still ON ME Zodiac.. so then the card now fits and does not run off the side of the 340... (but I have the card and 340 random size so who knows if this is right. so I put the bottom hole of the card, the eye hole, on the Z .. and line up all the holes over whatever letters are under there.
and it comes out with these letters. I did not count things that were not letters except for the 9. I did not count symbols and slash marks .
ZPWK9 on the small eyes
the big eyes are harder to adjust... so it comes out BTK . I am not f'ing kidding LMAO !!!
so I think well ZPWK9 makes no sense, so I separate the K9 . and have ZPW left, makes no sense.
so I look up and find ZPW= airport call words for the town of Schweinfurt (Germany)
So I think why are we in Germany? So I wonder if there is an ARMY BASE
So I look up what Schweinfurt means in German, cuz I'm thinking well FURT seems like maybe FORT?, so I'm thinking hmmm maybe there is an ARMY FORT there...but SCHWEINFURT means PIG FORD . I'm thinking ok, there is a check for PIG with the BIG 13.
so I think ok I'm still going to go see if there is an ARMY BASE there. sure enough,
Schweinfurt Army base from 1945 to 2014 On December 22, 1947, Schweinfurt Air Base was redesignated Conn Barracks The installation was returned to the German government on September 19, 2014
So now I am thinking what the hell. Here is BTK again, and some German Army base Schweinfurt Airport Call Letters.
NOw this could be totally a fluke and my card is not lining up right. but this is the second time BTK is showing up in the 340, IF this is lined up right... and the we still have the "K9" and that must be dog... was the zodiac sending in communications AFTER BTK became a DogCatcher?
Where was Dennis Rader Stationed? he was in the air force, but was he ever at this army base(and he also use to lie about himself in his own letters to the police) if he turns out he was stationed at this ARMY BASE in GERMANY, that will definitely be crazy...
so we have to find out where Dennis Rader was stationed. We have to make sure my card (not being the correct size, didn't just FLUKE all this stuff out of the card... K9, BTK, and ZPW = Schweinfurt flight call letters. how can it fluke all the 3 things right under the 13 eye holes in one placement? can it? that would be the hugest fluke of the century.
I'm going to go back and re-read all the decoded instructions again. Pig seems to check out. I guess the K9 unit could = cop? he was an enforcement officer but he was also the dog catcher... but he enforced other things as well.
and what about up top at the backwards K . >l F with the pig, cop, closeing (BY NG) and those things, we must have to put it up there also, to find something else. but my card is not the right size to fit, or maybe I have to flip it over upside down so the big eyes are in the middle of the 340.. and the little eyes run up and down the backwards K column ... so let me go try that. because the instuctions did say to flip it also.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 9, 2019 22:42:22 GMT -8
Schweinfurt army base info Will keep adding more info
The U. S. Army Garrison (USAG) Schweinfurt Military Community, part of the "Big Red One" makes up the 280th Support Battallion which is attached to the 98th Area Support Group out of Wuerzburg.
also know as Conn Barracks when it was officially taken over by the US Army.
From 1958 until 199 the 1st Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division; 3rd Battalion, 64th Armor; 2nd Battalion, 64th Armor; 6th Battalion, 52nd Air Defense Artillery; 3rd Support Battalion; C Company, 3rd Aviation Battalion (Combat). In 1991, 3rd Squadron, 4th Cavalry moved to Conn Barracks from Ledward. During this period, Schweinfurt had the highest concentration of combat units compared to all of the other posts in West Germany.
Dennis Rader dropped out of college and joined the U.S. Air Force in the mid-1960s. Dennis served four years in the Air Force, being stationed at Alabama in 1967, Pacific in 1968 and Japan also in 1968, this is apparently where he was finally stationed until the end of his Air Force career in 1970. he also has stated he was in Germany, Turkey.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 9, 2019 23:08:12 GMT -8
At one point, Rader told investigators that the string of numbers and letters on the letter mailed to the Eagle in 2004 was a German fractional code he knew from his military background. Police had sent the code to an FBI cryptologist. The code made no sense to the FBI.
He tried to recall his own code — which started with "GBSOAP" — but couldn't.
he is just not telling them haha - he knows full well how to code . The fbi never figured out the 2nd layer of his puzzle either, but it was there.
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Post by amazingates on Nov 11, 2019 7:30:40 GMT -8
I've been looking at this CAIPOZ(zodiac upside down and backwards) a bit more. That comes out to be CAPE OZ. So I went looking for anything to do with Cape OZ. at first I thought well maybe it has to do with the Wizard of OZ, but I could not figure out how the CAIP/ CAPE could work with that. So I thought well maybe the wizard wore a cape kinda like zodiac... NOPE that did not work either. So I started searching Miliatary slang for OZ... and came up with Australia. Aussies when shortened is AUS = phonics OZ, and this is not something I am making up, it is what is commonly known as the shortened name for Aussie because when shortened even more to AUS, it sounds like you are saying OZ... This got me to thinking about the personal AD with Imperial Wizard. Which I had thought was Royal Wizard, which I believe Wizard is the medical psyche in military slang. And the Royal military is Australian. So then we would have the OZ in Australia, so I went looking for the miltary bases in australia that have anything to do with CAIP/CAPE... and in australia, is the PERTH military base at CAPE Australia. So that is CAIP/CAPE OZ, which is Zodiac upside down and backwards CAIPOZ. So the CLUE on this 13th card might be Perth. So was someone(Zodiac) ever stationed there and this is where they came up with the name ZODIAC-CAIPOZ - CAPE OZCampbell Barracks is an Australian Army base located in Swanbourne,[1] a coastal suburb of Perth, Western Australia. It is named after Lieutenant Colonel J.A. Campbell (1842–1924), former commandant of the Commonwealth Military Forces in Western Australia.[2] The Special Air Service Regiment (SASR) has been based at Campbell Barracks since the Regiment was first established as an independent company in 1957.[3] Although Campbell Barracks is the home of the SASR, most of the training and selection for the regiment takes place in Bindoon, Western Australia.[4] The SASR is a special forces regiment of the Australian Army and is modelled on the original British SAS, while also drawing on the traditions of the Australian Z Special Force commando unit, and the Independent Companies which were active in the South Pacific during the Second World War. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_Barracks_(Western_Australia)The navy in Australia is the ROYAL Navy, so their Wizard, would be a Royal Wizard, which is the Imperial Wizard, so that makes sense with the personal ad DEEP REAL ESTATE... DEEP is 'down under' which in Australia. So, what is the connection to the Royal Navy at Perth Australia? which is in the Australia Cape? let me think about this some more
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Post by amazingates on Dec 12, 2019 22:58:49 GMT -8
now since writing all the posts above this one, I went and decoded the DEEP REAL ESTATE, IMPERIAL WIZARD personal ad. And that could be talking about Mariann Wizard, and anti-war activist who helped with legal issues for vets and GI's on base and in viet nam. Her and her husband Larry waterhouse were radicals and very involved in anti-war movement. the also set up counseling for the vets and gi's, and it could be those couselors for the vets were Wizards, as that is slang for military psyche. And being Mariann's last name is wizard that makes sense. Not to mention she was over at fort ord area by carmel, and the celebrity cipher(if this is zodiac, I think it is) has a photo of carmel by the sea and the stamped used on it is Marianne, a poet. which would coincide with mariann wizard. I have threads on all of these, just go to the search engine or scroll through the zodiac general discussion and the threads are all there for all of the different communications I am working on. they will start out in the title as "TEARING APART'... and then whatever communication it is.
The thing about all of these communications is each one is connected to all of the rest, so we really need to get them all decoded or at least half-way decoded so we can hook up the clues in them all. Each time you find clues in a few communications, it makes it much easier to decode the next ones because we they at least know some info already to compare it to.
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Post by amazingates on Dec 12, 2019 23:02:18 GMT -8
again I think Zodiac is a group, and ophion and ran both pointed out that the 13 holes in the 13 card might represent the 13 hole shot into Troy Houghton's car when he disappeared. I think this could be a troy Houghton clue as well too, as there are many many troy Houghton clues in so many of the communications and the Halloween card reeks of Troy Houghton. Troy disappeared and his car was found with 13 bullet holes, so the 13 holes in the 13 card might be a clue to the bullet holes in troys card. Some people thought he was killed and dead and that might be what the Albany message says, I am not dead I am alive and well. I think Troy Houghton is part of the zodiac group. i think BTK very possibly could be also. There are just a lot of clues coming out of these communications that point to both of them. You can read about the group theory here
Is the Zodiac case not solved because it is a group?theslaughterhouse.freeforums.net/thread/432/zodiac-case-solved-group
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